[Scarlett.]

Remainers are not going anywhere, even when Brexit happens we wont be quiet.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by James

They should have backed a compromise leave position from the start (after the referendum) instead of messing around with the People's Vote stuff - which helped get the election result we got.

Corbyn never wanted to iirc he was against backing remain and only put the 2nd vote option on the ballot they'd have under duress.
He wanted to leave, it was no secret. He was pilloried for not coming out vocally for remain and also for advocating leave he couldn't win.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think most people accept it, the problem is Brexiteers believing that "accepting that it's happening" has to involve pretending that it won't be an absolute disaster .

But that is also jargon. It's not happened no one knows

[Withano]

Stupid idea made true by media and gulllible members of the public

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Withano

Stupid idea made true by media and gulllible members of the public

Oh stop insulting people to to pretend you are somehow better

Ffs it's so old now

[James]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Corbyn never wanted to iirc he was against backing remain and only put the 2nd vote option on the ballot they'd have under duress.
He wanted to leave, it was no secret. He was pilloried for not coming out vocally for remain and also for advocating leave he couldn't win.

Yeah, it is obvious from his record in politics that he is a Eurosceptic in the style of the late Tony Benn. He would have likely backed Leave - had he not been leader of a party which is largely pro-EU - at the time of the referendum.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

But that is also jargon. It's not happened no one knows

Except for various analysts and experts that make a career on being accurate and so far they've been right in their predictions that it's a disaster. Whenever there's a development with us heading towards Brexit, the value of the pound drops, to think that things won't be bad when Brexit happens is basically being overly optimistic in hopes of overwriting the facts at hand.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ffs it's so old now

Kinda of like the "we won you lost, so be quiet" mentality is

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Kinda of like the "we won you lost, so be quiet" mentality is

Such an undemocratic attitude too. 'We won, so you no longer have a right to an opinion because it upsets us!'.

Never mind the whole gross aspect of treating matters of governance like a sport.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Kinda of like the "we won you lost, so be quiet" mentality is

It's the view of Lord Heseltine. He is a skilled political person. Are you questioning his opinion?

[Rustic bauble]

The people voted to leave...the election proved that people want to leave and won’t be bullied by sour faced losers that tried desperately to overturn democracy. Now let’s move on.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It's the view of Lord Heseltine. He is a skilled political person. Are you questioning his opinion?

Lord Vaseline can say whatever he wants

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by James

Yeah, it is obvious from his record in politics that he is a Eurosceptic in the style of the late Tony Benn. He would have likely backed Leave - had he not been leader of a party which is largely pro-EU - at the time of the referendum.

But was it though, look at the labour heartlands lost to the northern brexiteers? Would those have fallen had he not been swayed by remain backing mps and ministers?