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Originally Posted by Dezzy

There is no point in discussing anything with you, it all begins and ends with Corbyn when it comes to you to the point that his mere presence somehow makes it so that the entire public are not responsible for their own choices because it's all Corbyn's fault. Utterly ridiculous.

People made their choices based on nothing but propaganda, they gave the Tories a landslide win out of nothing but wilful ignorance. I live in Toryville despite the area being working class at heart. I've had poilitical conversations with plenty of people and it all goes the same way, they don't want to hear facts about the Tories that paint them in a bad light and they hate labour because the papers told them to. People are responsible for their own idiotic choices. Many voters chose to be ignorant and so I shall laugh in their faces when their choices bite them in the arse and they suffer the consequences for their ignorance.

Grown ass people made a terrible choice and they will hold the responsibility for that decision and you will not try to alleviate blame from them by blaming a losing party. The information was out there, the facts were damning of the Tories and people chose not to listen. They have no one to blame but themselves.

You speak of 'wiser heads' but I've yet to see anything to support that beyond 'CORBYN BAD! WE BLAME OUR BAD DECISIONS ON HIM!'. It is scapegoating pure and simple, people are responsible for their own votes and when they vote poorly they are free game for criticism.

The reason why Tories have gotten stronger since 2016 is because we are living in an age where the facts no longer matter. We live in a Trump era world where you can ignore facts that go against your beliefs and the idiot rags are becoming more like state propaganda every day. It's not a sudden thing, it didn't happen over night, it's been happening for years and this election is proof of that. People are cattle that willingly voted for the slaughterhouse.

So the area you live in has some stupid people, in your opinion, and that automatically means that the millions who voted Tory are cattle, idiots, are full of wilful ignorance and have only themselves to blame. Probably a small percentage were clueless, by that law of averages that you don't believe in.
However, one man, Corbyn, the Saint, whose job it was to win an election is completely blameless according to you and isn't responsible at all for the dodgy views he holds that worried decent people and the choices he made that led to his party failing those who supported him miserably...

That makes no sense at all, in fact your views are just childish churlishness....and the way you portray anyone who doesn't think like you do is hateful and spiteful. I just can't with you...