[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe they could swap the prince for the woman who killed Harry Dunn.The US have said they wont send her back but they could do a deal if they want Edward.We get rid of the prince and the Dunns might get justice for Harry.

Poor Edward.

[Rob!]

I’ve never understood why Megan gets all the hassle (well, I do obviously) because it’s not like Harry has ever been the most conventional member of the royal family. This is the same guy who was always in trouble growing up, drugs, strip poker, nazi uniforms etc. Plus, his mother died as a result of being so heavily in the public eye. Why WOULDN’T he want to move away from that?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

I think too that people don’t care about Andrew but are currently very concerned for Harry and that is ongoing. He certainly isn’t a happy man since his marriage, for whatever reasons.
Meghan has got what she wanted. Her beaming smiles as she boarded the seaplane and then when out walking the dogs is a testament to that.

Meanwhile back in the UK Harry was facing a conference with the Royals and then giving a speech in which he got very emotional, near to tears in fact, about what he ‘had no choice’ but to do. Was Meghan thinking of what he was going through? Didn’t appear so.

Meghan’s gain has been Harry’s loss.

He has given up his family, his friends, his ‘2nd family’ the army patronages, his country, his work, for her. What has the spoilt madam given up for him?
IMO, Harry is currently very fragile. What exactly is he going to do in the US to fill his time?
He is trained for nothing but being a Royal. I think this is going to be very hard on him. But Meghan’s happy, and that’s what counts. It is being said the Queen is ‘keeping the door open back home’ - wise woman. JMO.

Why isn’t he a very happy man? Where has this come from?
A woman walking her dog isn’t testament of anything. They are pictures that Have been taken by press.

Harry has chosen to leave the Royal family for his wife and child. What is it about this that you are not understanding?

Again, your utterly unwarranted hate for this woman is ghastly. How is she a spoilt madam? The only way you have come that assumption is from the tabloids you claim you don’t read.
And also, how are you personally aware of Harry’s wellbeing? You seem to be quite sure that he’s a fragile man who doesn’t know his own mind.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Poor Edward.

yeah blame Eddie!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Why isn’t he a very happy man? Where has this come from?
A woman walking her dog isn’t testament of anything. They are pictures that Have been taken by press.

Harry has chosen to leave the Royal family for his wife and child. What is it about this that you are not understanding?

Again, your utterly unwarranted hate for this woman is ghastly. How is she a spoilt madam? The only way you have come that assumption is from the tabloids you claim you don’t read.
And also, how are you personally aware of Harry’s wellbeing? You seem to be quite sure that he’s a fragile man who doesn’t know his own mind.

Stop throwing the 'hate' word around because someone has an opinion you can't cope with....and I don't read tabloids. If they are saying the same as me, then they are better than I thought.

[rusticgal]

Maybe the reason Meghan gets discussed more than Andrew is because Meghan is a new member to the Royal family who we have watched with intrigue building up to her wedding and birth of their first child...
Andrew on the other hand has been of little interest to the public for many years...comes across as an arrogant twat. This business with Epstein I don’t think has come as a massive surprise to many but has created discussion. He is a disgrace and I think most people have come to the conclusion he knows what he was involved in.
Meghan on the other hand...well she’s open to discussion. Say one thing against her and you are racist and sexist... she’s a diva/actress and seems to like getting her own way imo.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Say one thing against her and you are racist and sexist....

Who said this?

There's a difference between discussing the media backlash and general attitude towards her and saying that each individual person who has taken a dislike to her is racist.

[Ammi]

...(..I don’t think it’s so much about discussion interest...)...it’s why there is ‘more outrage’ specifically...and it is something that is quite difficult to fathom...in googling ‘outrage Prince Andrew’...there is very little outrage linked and attached to the story ...other than apparent outrage from Epstein’s victims...outrage and disappointment with Andrew’s so far lack of cooperation...in contrast though, in googling ‘outrage Meghan Markle’...there are many linked and attached stories from those who wouldn’t really fit into a ‘victim’ situation...apparently fury is felt over her and Harry’s decision is one headline...she’s been accused of being a domestic abuser by someone according to another article..and she’s been called a spoilt brat and a manipulator....none of the ‘outrage’ laid at her is really in proportion or context in comparison to Andrew and his story atm...

[thesheriff443]

Two waste of spaces have left the country, the end.

[AnnieK]

I think the difference in the debates is there really isnt that much to talk about with Andrew. I would not, at this stage, call him a paedophile as nothing has been proven. His lack of cooperation and absolute car crash of an interview don't prove his guilt....what is more telling is the Queens decision to basically sack him....he has something dubious at best to hide...criminal at worst. Everyone knows he stayed with Epstein so he moved in unsavoury circles, the rest currently is speculation.

With Harry and Meghan, its more opinion and differing opinions so will be debated more. As Livia (I think) alluded to is the GBP all feel protective of Harry from seeing him lose his mother and so people have strong opinions. Its a much more palatable debate than wondering if a Prince sexually abused people.....I think people are worried that if they think he is innocent and it comes out he isn't, they will be seen as defending a paedophile.

It's much easier to debate why you like or don't like a girl who has "stolen" our favourite young prince

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I think the difference in the debates is there really isnt that much to talk about with Andrew. I would not, at this stage, call him a paedophile as nothing has been proven. His lack of cooperation and absolute car crash of an interview don't prove his guilt....what is more telling is the Queens decision to basically sack him....he has something dubious at best to hide...criminal at worst. Everyone knows he stayed with Epstein so he moved in unsavoury circles, the rest currently is speculation.

With Harry and Meghan, its more opinion and differing opinions so will be debated more. As Livia (I think) alluded to is the GBP all feel protective of Harry from seeing him lose his mother and so people have strong opinions. Its a much more palatable debate than wondering if a Prince sexually abused people.....I think people are worried that if they think he is innocent and it comes out he isn't, they will be seen as defending a paedophile.





It's much easier to debate why you like or don't like a girl who has "stolen" our favourite young prince

I like your post.

[Parmy]

Pity he didn't marry shiela from Stockport and they just pissed off up the road to some council house instead of all this hoo-ha.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe they could swap the prince for the woman who killed Harry Dunn.The US have said they wont send her back but they could do a deal if they want Edward.We get rid of the prince and the Dunns might get justice for Harry.

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Poor Edward.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

Stop throwing the 'hate' word around because someone has an opinion you can't cope with....and I don't read tabloids. If they are saying the same as me, then they are better than I thought.

‘I can’t answer any of your questions because I don’t have any answers to give’

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...(..I don’t think it’s so much about discussion interest...)...it’s why there is ‘more outrage’ specifically...and it is something that is quite difficult to fathom...in googling ‘outrage Prince Andrew’...there is very little outrage linked and attached to the story ...other than apparent outrage from Epstein’s victims...outrage and disappointment with Andrew’s so far lack of cooperation...in contrast though, in googling ‘outrage Meghan Markle’...there are many linked and attached stories from those who wouldn’t really fit into a ‘victim’ situation...apparently fury is felt over her and Harry’s decision is one headline...she’s been accused of being a domestic abuser by someone according to another article..and she’s been called a spoilt brat and a manipulator....none of the ‘outrage’ laid at her is really in proportion or context in comparison to Andrew and his story atm...

There's an article calling her a domestic abuser? That's somehow more unfounded than when they were calling Jeremy Corbyn a Terrorist.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

There's an article calling her a domestic abuser? That's somehow more unfounded than when they were calling Jeremy Corbyn a Terrorist.

I don't believe he was ever called a 'terrorist'.
The true term is 'terrorist sympathiser', which he is/was.

An article saying Meghan is a domestic abuser? Not poor Harry being beat over the head with her Louboutins. Ouch. Never heard that one, it must be a tabloid story.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

I don't believe he was ever called a 'terrorist'.
The true term is 'terrorist sympathiser', which he is/was.

An article saying Meghan is a domestic abuser? Not poor Harry being beat over the head with her Louboutins. Ouch. Never heard that one, it must be a tabloid story.

You think that Corbyn is a Terrorist sympathizer. Like what Livia's said earlier on in the thread about Andrew there's no evidence to suggest that he is.

And I've genuinely not heard of that story between Meghan and Harry, was it on accident?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by jet

I don't believe he was ever called a 'terrorist'.
The true term is 'terrorist sympathiser', which he is/was.

An article saying Meghan is a domestic abuser? Not poor Harry being beat over the head with her Louboutins. Ouch. Never heard that one, it must be a tabloid story.

What vivid imagination you have. It'd be sad if it wasn't so funny.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You think that Corbyn is a Terrorist sympathizer. Like what Livia's said earlier on in the thread about Andrew there's no evidence to suggest that he is.

And I've genuinely not heard of that story between Meghan and Harry, was it on accident?

You haven't heard it bc it's made up Mocky

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

You haven't heard it bc it's made up Mocky

I was gonna say, like where have I been all of this time if that had've really happened.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jet

I don't believe he was ever called a 'terrorist'.
The true term is 'terrorist sympathiser', which he is/was.

An article saying Meghan is a domestic abuser? Not poor Harry being beat over the head with her Louboutins. Ouch. Never heard that one, it must be a tabloid story.

Originally Posted by Twosugars

What vivid imagination you have. It'd be sad if it wasn't so funny.

Jet wasn't being serious

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Jet wasn't being serious

well that one flew over the cuckoo's nest

[Kizzy]

I seem to remember being tarred with a brush for being a Corbyn supporter, I was a terrorist sympathiser and an antisemite for maintaining my position during the election.

I see a comparison here, those who dislike Meghan are being accused of being racist so a label is attached in the same way but for being unsupportive rather than supportive.

In these cases I can see why the accusation is hugely offensive and frustrating..However once you stray into the territory of denying any racism, or racism not being a factor, that is a whole different issue.

Denying there is a problem when others are clearly affected is displaying a bias, in the same way as denying antisemitism in the labour party would have been.

[GoldHeart]

Meghan doesn't fit the 100% British image , it's disgusting that she's being treated worse .

Meghan isn't the one who was thick as thieves with a paedophile etc and caught in sex scandals , but whatever .

It's dumb to deny the racism and people like Piers Morgan can bury their heads in the sand all they want,whilst putting their fingers in their ears .

But at the end of the day Piers, Holly & Phill all interviewed the UKIP guy and they saw the nasty racist things his then girlfriend said about Meghan which were uncalled for.

It's as if all that's been forgotten about now ,as it doesn't fit the narrative of "Meghan being a nuisance" etc etc and so on . Is it any wonder both Meghan & Harry have stepped down when they get treated like this .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Meghan doesn't fit the 100% British image , it's disgusting that she's being treated worse .

Meghan isn't the one who was thick as thieves with a paedophile etc and caught in sex scandals , but whatever .

It's dumb to deny the racism and people like Piers Morgan can bury their heads in the sand all they want,whilst putting their fingers in their ears .

But at the end of the day Piers, Holly & Phill all interviewed the UKIP guy and they saw the nasty racist things his then girlfriend said about Meghan which were uncalled for.

It's as if all that's been forgotten about now ,as it doesn't fit the narrative of "Meghan being a nuisance" etc etc and so on . Is it any wonder both Meghan & Harry have stepped down when they get treated like this .

No body is denying racism occurred , but I don't think it is the main reason they left the UK