[thesheriff443]

Look grown men are marrying 8 year old girls with th the full backing of her parents.

Will we ever live in a world where girls women are treated equal, no

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why don't you at least attempt to educate yourself then?

I'm having me breakfast.

[Alf]

White English girls are being raped in the tens of thousands, and the Police, Social services, and likely, politicians deliberately ignored it. Sacrificed those girls.

You wanna speak out? then speak out.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

There was a lot of it about back then so I have been told by my mom ,she openly told me her and her friend used to follow groups they liked around and were excited when they actually got close to them , and although it seems very wrong in this day and age it was a different era,Jerry lee Lewis married a teenager(wasn't she 13 ?) , even today some men go for younger girls, when someone is 15 they know what they are doing and some women like older men, if no one is forced and they want to do it and they are of an age when they know what's what that is up to them . I do think anything under 15 is dodgy though , some girls do look way older than their years and I don't suppose I would be happy with my 16 year old with a guy of 33,but you cannot really stop them at that age.

I really do despair at this type of comment.

It doesnt matter if it was a different era, if there was lot of it about, if the child (yes a child) liked older men etc etc it's wrong, it's illegal, its abuse, its statutory rape and it being excused or made out to be not so bad and so on in any way at all is ****ing disgusting.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Josy

I really do despair at this type of comment.

It doesnt matter if it was a different era, if there was lot of it about, if the child (yes a child) liked older men etc etc it's wrong, it's illegal, its abuse, its statutory rape and it being excused or made out to be not so bad and so on in any way at all is ****ing disgusting.

Tommy Robinson spoke out about under age girls being raped and marrying adults. He was labelled a racist by all the virtue signallers. Now calling him a racist was an excuse.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Tommy Robinson spoke out about under age girls being raped and marrying adults. He was labelled a racist by all the virtue signallers. Now calling him a racist was an excuse.

Thats nothing at all to do with anything in post of mine you quoted so I'm unsure what type of reply you expect from me

[Oliver_W]

When it comes to "Classic" Rock stars and groupies, I think the lines are more blurred than instances such as Epstein, or Hollywood creeps like Weinstein - it's not like she was forced to be a groupie, or someone with power over their career used blackmail. Jagger was probably high af at the time, should he have asked to see her ID?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Josy

These posts are completely disgusting, you should both hang your heads in shame.

What on earth are you on about ??

I’ve already slaughtered the sickos preying on the young girls but the girl’s parents are also to blame !!
We never let our 13 year old daughter out of our sight when she wasn’t at school .. and there is no way she’d have been anywhere near bladdy rock stars / back stage concerts / crazy parties at 15 either


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its all very unsavory but then on another thread a recently deceased star is being elevated to God like status even though he was charged with rape of a 19 year old, so not sure why one is getting a pass, maybe Mick needs to die tragically for this to be glossed over

I only read about that recently. Hhmmm

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Josy

I really do despair at this type of comment.

It doesnt matter if it was a different era, if there was lot of it about, if the child (yes a child) liked older men etc etc it's wrong, it's illegal, its abuse, its statutory rape and it being excused or made out to be not so bad and so on in any way at all is ****ing disgusting.

No one said it was right Josy,I was just sayng how it was back then,from what I have been told,it was wrong but it was the norm then I believe, times move on and that can be a good thing,I was not condoning it at all, as I said I would not be happy with my 16 year old girl dating a 33 year old but if they want to do it they will, they don't care if its wrong.people are calling for 16 year olds to get the vote hence they must think teenagers are mature enough to know what the world is about and I am sure I knew at 16 having sex underage was wrong aswell, yes men take advantage, but some girls are willing to let them, I never once said t was ok.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

When it comes to "Classic" Rock stars and groupies, I think the lines are more blurred than instances such as Epstein, or Hollywood creeps like Weinstein - it's not like she was forced to be a groupie, or someone with power over their career used blackmail. Jagger was probably high af at the time, should he have asked to see her ID?

So anyone who is high should be excused of having sex with a minor? Being high profile should make these stars more aware....but they think their money and fame excuse any indiscretions....she wouldn't have looked twice at mick Jagger had he not been famous.

The age if consent in the UK has been 16 since 1865 so I don't buy it was a different era, it had still been illegal for.over 100 years

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

So anyone who is high should be excused of having sex with a minor? Being high profile should make these stars more aware....but they think their money and fame excuse any indiscretions....she wouldn't have looked twice at mick Jagger had he not been famous.

The age if consent in the UK has been 16 since 1865 so I don't buy it was a different era, it had still been illegal for.over 100 years

I didn't say it should be excused - if he hit on her in a coffee shop on a Tuesday afternoon, I'd say he's unequivocally a creeper. But when he had impaired judgement, in a situation where he expected to only meet adults, and was presented with someone who wanted sex, it wasn't unreasonable for him to assume she was of age.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Tommy Robinson spoke out about under age girls being raped and marrying adults. He was labelled a racist by all the virtue signallers. Now calling him a racist was an excuse.

Who has said that was right?.... nobody!
The fact that you have outed yourself as totally ignorant to what contitutes as abuse are you sure these girls were actually abused?.... many of them referred to their abusers as boyfriends so that's ok isn't it? ...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What on earth are you on about ??

I’ve already slaughtered the sickos preying on the young girls but the girl’s parents are also to blame !!
We never let our 13 year old daughter out of our sight when she wasn’t at school .. and there is no way she’d have been anywhere near bladdy rock stars / back stage concerts / crazy parties at 15 either


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No the parents arent to blame, the girl isnt to blame, the sicko that abused her is to blame.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Josy

I really do despair at this type of comment.

It doesnt matter if it was a different era, if there was lot of it about, if the child (yes a child) liked older men etc etc it's wrong, it's illegal, its abuse, its statutory rape and it being excused or made out to be not so bad and so on in any way at all is ****ing disgusting.

Talking about what was acceptable in the past and how it was viewed does not make it right and it does not make the person talking about the mindset of the past wrong.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who has said that was right?.... nobody!
The fact that you have outed yourself as totally ignorant to what contitutes as abuse are you sure these girls were actually abused?.... many of them referred to their abusers as boyfriends so that's ok isn't it? ...

Have you ever thought you are the ignorant one? And what I said was correct?

Rape is an act carried out forcibly or under a threat, or without consent.

This wasn't rape, it was sex with a minor.

You can argue about it until the cows come home, but you're still wrong.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Alf

Have you ever thought you are the ignorant one? And what I said was correct?

Rape is an act carried out forcibly or under a threat, or without consent.

This wasn't rape, it was sex with a minor.

You can argue about it until the cows come home, but you're still wrong.

so basically your point is, sex with a minor, but with consent

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

so basically your point is, sex with a minor, but with consent

Yes, what Mick Jagger did, was a crime and not right, sick in fact. But it wasn't rape.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yes, what Mick Jagger did, was a crime and not right, sick in fact. But it wasn't rape.

it is Mick Jagger we talk about, doesn't surprise me at all

[smudgie]

So, she says he didn’t know she was underage, she wanted to experience being a groupie, she had been sleeping around so knew what she was doing.
They remained friends for years.
Hmmm, difficult one to prove as rape, all pivots on him knowing her age or not really.

[bots]

i'm sorry to disappoint so many people, but having lived through the 70's I can assure you all that sex with someone under 16 was considered rape then, they were not different times, it was frowned upon just as much then as it is now.

I'm very shocked at comments in this thread. It is exactly these views that allow predators like Jagger, Gary Glitter et al to behave as they do.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

it is Mick Jagger we talk about, doesn't surprise me at all

I'm glad you have found him guilty as charged just by the look of him.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm glad you have found him guilty as charged just by the look of him.

Nicky didn’t say anything about the look of him?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yes, what Mick Jagger did, was a crime and not right, sick in fact. But it wasn't rape.

If you trick a senile old man into handing over his money, it's not armed robbery but it's still theft.

If you have sex with someone who's not developmentally able to give consent, it's statutory rape.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm sorry to disappoint so many people, but having lived through the 70's I can assure you all that sex with someone under 16 was considered rape then, they were not different times, it was frowned upon just as much then as it is now.

I'm very shocked at comments in this thread. It is exactly these views that allow predators like Jagger, Gary Glitter et al to behave as they do.

Gary Glitter was carrying on with pre pubescent children, he was a full on paedophile, although you'd like to club them all together, they're's differences.

You are making me sound like I'm defending Jagger, but I can assure you, I'm not, I hope he faces justice if he is proven to have done wrong. But we have to get things right.