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thesheriff443 · 02-02-2020, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Its 2 different crimes so that's a pretty poor comparison

No it’s not in the eyes of the law you can have the same thing happen but under different surcumstanes.

Josy · 02-02-2020, 02:13 PM

Why do people even care about name of it it just comes across like attempting to defend or make it seem somehow less horrible

Zizu · 02-02-2020, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

You're comment read that the parents were partly to blame.

I stand by my opinion. They arent. The victim isnt either.

At least start reading comments in context then ..

This the post I was replying to ..

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thesheriff443 · 02-02-2020, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Both of those are statutory rape.

The person committing the crime are not charged with statutory rape

Josy · 02-02-2020, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

No it’s not in the eyes of the law you can have the same thing happen but under different surcumstanes.

Yes I know that.

Doesnt change the fact that Jagger committed statutory rape.

Josy · 02-02-2020, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

At least start reading comments in context then ..

This the post I was replying to ..

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I did. Still reads the same.

Zizu · 02-02-2020, 02:17 PM

....

thesheriff443 · 02-02-2020, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Yes I know that.

Doesnt change the fact that Jagger committed statutory rape.

No in the eyes of the law the charge will be having sex with someone under the age of concent because even tho she agreed to have sex she was under the legal age of consent

Zizu · 02-02-2020, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

I did. Still reads the same.

I’d already dealt with the slimy perverse offenders and then I commented that the parents were not blameless

This is my earlier post

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Originally Posted by Zizu

So can these pervs not be brought to justice ?

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Josy · 02-02-2020, 02:20 PM

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The Age of Consent in*United Kingdom is 16 years old. ... Individuals aged 15 or younger in*United Kingdom*are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for*statutory rape*or the equivalent local law.

Again why the hell do people seem more interested in what the crime is called rather than what he done.

Zizu · 02-02-2020, 02:22 PM

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Again why the hell do people seem more interested in what the crime is called rather than what he done.

I’m done

Looks like you’ve nothing else to do but go around in circles winding people up ..

Crazy thing is .... we’re all on the same team !!!’

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Kizzy · 02-02-2020, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Dia please check the first post
Rae now older stated these words

[As she rises to leave she says:

'This is my story. I can only tell it as I see it.
This is my truth. Yes, I was only 15.
But it was my body, my choice, my decision.']

Whose body it is makes not one jot of difference. So by that token the guys in Rotherham did nothing wrong as the underage girls in some cases were willing participants?

thesheriff443 · 02-02-2020, 02:23 PM

Because depending on the circumstances there would be different out comes

That’s why there are different charges.

If jagger was charged with statutory rape he would not be convicted because it does not meet the threshold for that charge

Josy · 02-02-2020, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m done

Looks like you’ve nothing else to do but go around in circles winding people up ..

Crazy thing is .... we’re all on the same team !!!’

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I wasnt referring to you, calm yourself.

Josy · 02-02-2020, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Because depending on the circumstances there would be different out comes

That’s why there are different charges.

If jagger was charged with statutory rape he would not be convicted because it does not meet the threshold for that charge

It does though.

Twosugars · 02-02-2020, 02:28 PM

The point is minors are considered unable to consent to sex and so law treats it that consent was not given and therefore classes it as rape.
Makes no difference how "willing" a minor is.
For an adult it is gross to hide behind putting it on the minor. Nope, only one party is fully responsible, full stop.

Jake. · 02-02-2020, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Why do people even care about name of it it just comes across like attempting to defend or make it seem somehow less horrible

Exactly the point I feel

Zizu · 02-02-2020, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

I wasnt referring to you, calm yourself.

I quoted that post because you keep going on and on but never take into account anything said to you .. you must be a complete nightmare to talk to if you simply don’t listen

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thesheriff443 · 02-02-2020, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

It does though.

The law is complex.

Sometimes cps will drop a rape charge knowing there is a good possibility of not getting a conviction instead they will opt for a lesser charge of sexual assault because there is a greater chance of a conviction.

They had sex that was Illegal but the circumstances of what lead to sex will have an impact on the charge.

By the way I don’t make the law.

Josy · 02-02-2020, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

I quoted that post because you keep going on and on but never take into account anything said to you .. you must be a complete nightmare to talk to if you simply don’t listen

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I keep going on and on?

It's a discussion and I was replying to points I disagreed with.

Dont blame me because the way you worded your opinion made it sound like you were blaming the parents...

Josy · 02-02-2020, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The law is complex.

Sometimes cps will drop a rape charge knowing there is a good possibility of not getting a conviction instead they will opt for a lesser charge of sexual assault because there is a greater chance of a conviction.

They had sex that was Illegal but the circumstances of what lead to sex will have an impact on the charge.

By the way I don’t make the law.

None of that matters one bit though he had sex with a minor meaning she wasn't legally able to consent, that's statutory rape.

Why do care so much to argue about the charge that would be against him?

Zizu · 02-02-2020, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

None of that matters one bit though he had sex with a minor meaning she wasn't legally able to consent, that's statutory rape

Yeah .... you’ve said that about fifty times already .... yawn

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Josy · 02-02-2020, 02:45 PM

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Yeah .... you’ve said that about fifty times already .... yawn

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Yeah it's a forum.

Try a sleep if you're tired.

Alf · 02-02-2020, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

None of that matters one bit though he had sex with a minor meaning she wasn't legally able to consent, that's statutory rape.

Why do care so much to argue about the charge that would be against him?

Because we want to make sure he gets sentenced and pays the correct penalty for his crime.

He’s a multi millionaire, he can afford the best lawyers in the land. So he needs to be charged with the correct crime.

Josy · 02-02-2020, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Because we want to make sure he gets sentenced and pays the correct penalty for his crime.

He’s a multi millionaire, he can afford the best lawyers in the land. So he needs to be charged with the correct crime.

I'm sure the authorities will be well able to deal with that without the help of TiBBers

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