[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You literally just did though but ok..........

Christian values say a woman's place is on her back too eh?

What do you mean how much I want to invest in a stranger? I'm not investing anything in him, I'm just giving my opinion on the guy, bloody hell

Why are you so arsy with me, I’m definitely not calling you a liar.

I’m not afraid to say what I think, I’m not looking for an argument with you we are just talking a boxer who did great things to turn his life around but has said some very stupid things.

Just for the record I don’t have a problem with women being more skilled than me being more intelligent than me or earning more money than me.

Any person with half a brain would realise how narrow minded views of a woman being on her back.

Investment is basically how much a stranger says makes us believe what they are saying is true.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Why are you so arsy with me, I’m definitely not calling you a liar.

I’m not afraid to say what I think, I’m not looking for an argument with you we are just talking a boxer who did great things to turn his life around but has said some very stupid things.

Just for the record I don’t have a problem with women being more skilled than me being more intelligent than me or earning more money than me.

Any person with half a brain would realise how narrow minded views of a woman being on her back.

Investment is basically how much a stranger says makes us believe what they are saying is true.

That's not what investment in a person means

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Someone with a question mark over their past behaviour who has overcome their demons and can stand up and say "I used to hold some awful opinions and say some awful things - I look back and see things differently now, and here's why ... ..." may well still be deserving of accolades...

Yes agree with that. If someone has a genuine change of heart and really realises how awful and damaging their opinions were then fair enough but his "apology" was just lip service

Yup, it was evidenced by him angrily walking out of that interview when they asked him about it. It smacks of him getting annoyed that people keep bringing it up because he did the bare minimum to try and smooth it over.

He hasn't changed one bit, I bet. There's no reason for him to, he barely faced any consequences when it all came out.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

He's a fraction above the people who park their caravans on public land, nick stuff out of people's sheds and leave the place like a pig sty when they leave.

And if he finds that racist or offensive... in five years I will say I was wrong.

I find that a really uncalled for comment

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

sorry but I find that a really nasty comment

Yes, it is. As nasty as his comments about Jews. And like I said, I'll give it five years and apologise.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, it is. As nasty as his comments about Jews. And like I said, I'll give it five years and apologise.

You have the benefit of a University education and a formal upbringing, why would you go down to his level?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You have the benefit of a University education and a formal upbringing, why would you go down to his level?

No, I have to stand quietly and suck it up when people like him are anti-Semitic.

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i don't think the guy is blessed with a lot of intelligence, and it shows. The boxing profession isn't exactly renowned for it's mental prowess.

This brings back to the fore the argument that people lacking intelligence shouldn't be allowed to vote

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

No, I have to stand quietly and suck it up when people like him are anti-Semitic.

I am sure you could denigrate him without resorting to stereotyping

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I am sure you could denigrate him without resorting to stereotyping

I'm not going to make excuses because he was under educated. I fail to see why you should take offence at a comment I made about him, considering you've fought hard for him in this thread.

And this is just a debate. I love you deeply Cheriebomb. But not in a gay way.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm not going to make excuses because he was under educated. I fail to see why you should take offence at a comment I made about him, considering you've fought hard for him in this thread.

And this is just a debate. I love you deeply Cheriebomb. But not in a gay way.

love you too Liv, which is why I changed my comment which you quoted in a nano second

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

love you too Liv, which is why I changed my comment which you quoted in a nano second

I'm like a mantis, me....

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You can’t possibly be comparing the two guys !!




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Yes, I am when someone thinks that crimes are forgotten because they "spent 7 million".

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Two rapists? Yes, I am when someone thinks that crime is forgotten because they "spent 7 million".

I don't think Tyson Fury has raped anyone?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Two rapists? Yes, I am when someone thinks that crime is forgotten because they "spent 7 million".

Tyson’s crime .. was a five minute video clip when he was at his all time lowest ... suicidal in fact .. he was giving his depressed state , exaggerated opinion on how fecked up the world is ..


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think Tyson Fury has raped anyone?

Oops, I was talking about Kobe Bryant in the post prior.

I've changed it now.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Tyson’s crime .. was a five minute video clip when he was at his all time lowest ... suicidal in fact .. he was giving his depressed state , exaggerated opinion on how fecked up the world is ..


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Dunno what his depressed state has to do with my post.

I basically said rich people cannot buy their way out of consequences nor erase their crimes by throwing money at it. Or they shouldn't be allowed to.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oops, I was talking about Kobe Bryant in the post prior.

I've changed it now.

I was getting really confused

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm like a mantis, me....

A womantis

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Tyson’s crime .. was a five minute video clip when he was at his all time lowest ... suicidal in fact .. he was giving his depressed state , exaggerated opinion on how fecked up the world is ..


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I was just showing that Tyson’s so called crime you referred to couldn’t be compared to Bryant’s


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I was just showing that Tyson’s so called crime you referred to couldn’t be compared to Bryant’s


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I wasn't comparing the crimes. I was comparing the "buy their way out of it" mentality. As I explained three times.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I wasn't comparing the crimes. I was comparing the "buy their way out of it" mentality. As I explained three times.

Two different scenarios entirely, Weinstein was going through a court case when he made payments

Fureys comments were made 5 years ago, and he gave the 7 mil recently so they haven't exactly affected his career as he has fought since He didn't need to give away cash at all?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I wasn't comparing the crimes. I was comparing the "buy their way out of it" mentality. As I explained three times.

But Tyson wasn’t buying out of anything.. that ‘crime’ you referred to had no bearing on his generous gift of £7 million to charity .. he was simply being himself..


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Two different scenarios entirely, Weinstein was going through a court case when he made payments



Fureys comments were made 5 years ago, and he gave the 7 mil recently so they haven't exactly affected his career as he has fought since He didn't need to give away cash at all?

Exactly.. for some reason me and Marshy seem to clash on an awful lot of points ... I can’t decide if they’re constantly being deliberately obtuse or if we just see things from polar opposite angles ..

No really harm done though ..


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[Marsh.]

Stop calling me "Marshy" and "obtuse", you make an awful lot of discussion threads about me rather than the topic (which is against forum rules) yet accuse other people of being rude. Grow up and stick to discussing the topic.

Thanks.