[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

There are many valid reasons, some just don’t want to acknowledge them.

For instance, at the finale of their tour of Africa, after witnessing horrific poverty and learning about the daily rape of young girls and children in Angola still getting their limbs blown off, Meghan told Tom Bradby of her stuggles and how hard her life was with trembling lips and doe eyes.

Standing in one of the world’s poorest countries, the finale and focus of their documentary wasn’t Meghan emphasizing with the hardships and struggles of unfortunate people of that country, it was about poor her.
That self absorbed insensitivity is a recurring theme with Meghan and was a turning point for many who had previously defended her.
There is a time and a place for everything, especially when the world’s eyes are on you. How wrapped up in herself and selfish is she that she was blind to how that would be perceived by the majority of decent people?

At some point, even the folks writing this stuff must realise how deranged this reads. Why are we holding a young woman with a new family to standards we don't hold pm's or presidents to?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

So you win, do you? Your way or no way, is it?

Win what?

You just compared people criticising a woman for what she says in public to a woman being criticised for who people think she is behind closed doors but don't actually know.

That's just a fact.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

At some point, even the folks writing this stuff must realise how deranged this reads. Why are we holding a young woman with a new family to standards we don't hold pm's or presidents to?

Great question

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You mean in an interview when she was specfically asked a question about all the sh*t that had been thrown at her from the UK media?

Using her response to the backlash as a reason for the backlash in retrospect does not work.

The interview was set up with Tom Bradby, Harry's friend, specifically for the purpose. Tom Bradby said so himself. He advised them against it but they wouldn't listen, as usual.
If it had been otherwise, a decent person would have answered that they had nothing to complain about after the horror they had witnessed.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

I wonder do some people look upon Meghan as the person Rachel Zane was. (I never watched Suits, so I don't know what she was like on it).

I think most people generally understand the differences between actors careers and their home lives, unless this is your way of telling me that Robert Downey Jr really did have a metal suit....

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Win what?

You just compared people criticising a woman for what she says in public to a woman being criticised for who people think she is behind closed doors but don't actually know.

That's just a fact.

Our taxes paid for her multi million pound wedding. People have a right criticise her when she runs away from her duty.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Our taxes paid for her multi million pound wedding. People have a right criticise her when she runs away from her duty.

So in the first sentence she's criticised for having a tax payer funded wedding. In the second she's criticised for living a life not funded by the tax payer.

Ok Alf.

You're also assuming she is being criticised solely for giving up Royal duties. Ignoring the fact it started long before that

[bots]

Meghan is entitled to live her life as she wants, say what she wants when she wants. I didn't agree with how they handled their exit announcement ... but that's the extent of it ... i don't think that warrants a minute analysis of everything she has ever said or done.

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Meghan is entitled to live her life as she wants, say what she wants when she wants. I didn't agree with how they handled their exit announcement ... but that's the extent of it ... i don't think that warrants a minute analysis of everything she has ever said or done.

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

Good post.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Meghan is entitled to live her life as she wants, say what she wants when she wants. I didn't agree with how they handled their exit announcement ... but that's the extent of it ... i don't think that warrants a minute analysis of everything she has ever said or done.

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Meghan is entitled to live her life as she wants, say what she wants when she wants. I didn't agree with how they handled their exit announcement ... but that's the extent of it ... i don't think that warrants a minute analysis of everything she has ever said or done.

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

Truth, great post BOTS

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

At some point, even the folks writing this stuff must realise how deranged this reads. Why are we holding a young woman with a new family to standards we don't hold pm's or presidents to?

That young woman is nearly 40. There is nothing deranged about not liking this kind of self absorpion, no matter who has done it - pm, president or Joe Bloggs.
If you think her behaviour was fine, okay. Your perogative.

[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

If that approach was widespread, there wouldn't be much left to post about or read on this forum....and what was left would be all sunshine and rainbows and puppies.
If that is what some want, what are they doing here.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

If that approach was widespread, there wouldn't be much left to post about or read on this forum....and what was left would be all sunshine and rainbows and puppies.
If that is what some want, what are they doing here.

Or rather stick to criticising what you know and can see.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

That young woman is nearly 40. There is nothing deranged about not liking this kind of self absorpion, no matter who has done it - pm, president or Joe Bloggs.
If you think her behaviour was fine, okay. Your perogative.

I don't spend too much time giving them any thought whatsoever. I just think they should be allowed to get on with their lives without folks taking snippets of what they say, then using that to build up an imaginary world filled with imaginary conversations and actions around them.

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't spend too much time giving them any thought whatsoever. I just think they should be allowed to get on with their lives without folks taking snippets of what they say, then using that to build up an imaginary world filled with imaginary conversations and actions around them.

What imaginary conversations are you talking about? I'm confused as to the relevance of addressing this to me. My post was about the African interview, nothing else.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

What imaginary conversations are you talking about? I'm confused as to the relevance of addressing this to me. My post was about the African interview, nothing else.

You said, and I quote "If you think her behaviour was fine, okay." My point was just that I don't really care, but the people that really dislike her, pretend she's this Machiavellian demigod.

As an example:

Top Comment: - Hey Piers, Meghan from day 1 had this planned
all out. This is not a shock to anyone. Look what she did to her first husband
and to her father. The Royal Family mean nothing to her. Its all about Meghan
and only her.

[Liam-]

Piers asking “what would Diana think?” After slagging her off and slandering her whenever he gets the chance and taking every opportunity to try and make one of her sons life hell for standing up for his family is utterly laughable.
Hypocritical., opportunistic bellend.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Piers asking “what would Diana think?” After slagging her off and slandering her whenever he gets the chance and taking every opportunity to try and make one of her sons life hell for standing up for his family is utterly laughable.
Hypocritical., opportunistic bellend.

I think Diana would be supportive of an outsider, treated appallingly by the press and in a mixed race relationship.

[Alf]

Who cares what Diana would have thought, she was trash as well.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Who cares what Diana would have thought, she was trash as well.

Clearly Piers Morgan.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I think Diana would be supportive of an outsider, treated appallingly by the press and in a mixed race relationship.

A supportive Mother-in-law, we would have had to stan

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You said, and I quote "If you think her behaviour was fine, okay." My point was just that I don't really care, but the people that really dislike her, pretend she's this Machiavellian demigod.

As an example:

Quote:

Top Comment: - Hey Piers, Meghan from day 1 had this planned
all out. This is not a shock to anyone. Look what she did to her first husband
and to her father. The Royal Family mean nothing to her. Its all about Meghan
and only her.

What is wrong with anyone coming to that opinion from all that they see, hear and read?
Just as someone might form the opinion that its all nonsense and she is a wonderful, caring person?
Or someone else isn't interested at all and knows little about her or what she has or hasn't done?

Everyone has a right to their opinion. I might love someone that you don't.

'One man's meat is another man's poison'.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Andrew like many of the other royals has been an unpleasant arsehole for decades. People don't like him, they aren't interested in him. People did like Meghan until she started behaving like a spoilt brat, so they feel more disappointed in her.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet