[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

They're doing their best...

Two problems with this are that a) the 45000 is not yet a definite, its an extrapolation and b) it doesn't take into account that if you performed the same extrapolation for all other countries then it would also increase their death tolls drastically

[Saph]

OK

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

In Spain people fear the Guardia Civil, no one fears the police here

In fact you see footage of people actively challenging them and spitting and coughing, I doubt anyone spat in the face of the Spanish police, and if they did they would be beaten to a pulp with no come backs, so you can't really compare the two

Yes that’s my take on things , pretty much .


Gawd knows what I’d do if I was a cop and some scroteball spat in my face ... as they do fairly regularly


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

People blaming them for deaths expecting them to save everyone is absurd

Who expected everyone to be saved? Or have you just invented that?

[Beso]

Sick of the sight of that weasly looking bloke each night and his nasal tone.

I want that old women that is the expert to be pm after all this..unless Boris comes back soon at 5pm..

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

You have to blame the jobless chavvy benefit scum who wont do as they are told and attack people from police to supermarket workers ect, they are the reason we wont come out anytime soon

Laughable comment.

[Cherie]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartanntp

The UK has suffered one of the world's most horrendous outbreaks of coronavirus, a senior World Health Organisation (WHO) official has said.
Asked whether the UK would end up with the highest death rate in Europe, Dr Margaret Harris, said: "We won't really know who had the highest rates, what really went on, until after this is over and we can analyse it properly. Clearly you are having a horrendous outbreak and making a tremendous effort to care for everybody but at this stage it wouldn't be fair to make a judgement one way or another."




The fact that Italy, Spain, UK, France, and USA, Belgium and Germany have all been so badly affected so badly makes me wonder about the virus being man made I know its been disputed and sequenced etc in a lab but still.....

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Sick of the sight of that weasly looking bloke each night and his nasal tone.

I want that old women that is the expert to be pm after all this..unless Boris comes back soon at 5pm..

The Irish one?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Two problems with this are that a) the 45000 is not yet a definite, its an extrapolation and b) it doesn't take into account that if you performed the same extrapolation for all other countries then it would also increase their death tolls drastically

The figures are from the ONS, but I accept the b part of the post.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The Irish one?

Her that looks like the quiet one....bet she ain't though.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Her that looks like the quiet one....bet she ain't though.

You have lost me Is that Alison McClean

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Laughable comment.

So your claiming that incidents like this have not been happening?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

So your claiming that incidents like this have not been happening?

Am I claiming that unemployed, lower class, benefit claiming people are not all the same and aren't as you describe? Yes.

Am I claiming that the people whose behaviour has been a problem aren't all unemployed or benefit claimants? Yes.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Also to note The UK is highly populated for the size of the country so it's easier for the virus to run through it compared to other countries

That is not true at all.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You have lost me Is that Alison McClean

The one that does the graphs.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That is not true at all.

Correct..


I have a very important couple of stats that prove that.

Ive said it ages ago when the numbers were in the 20s..they are in the 250 region now.


So I luve in thurrock a very densely populated area of 170 thousand where towns just flow into the next one.....I come from the Scottish Borders, farming country..so the towns are spaced out and it only has a population of 120 thousand...



Thurrock has less covid 19 patients than the borders.only by about ten...but it's always been behind them.


Both are doing well I would say though.


Just to add...Thurrock is 30 miles from london at most...and I would say the borders is the same from Edinburgh. ..separated by hills though
...unlike the a13 down here

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That is not true at all.

So you are saying the UK is the same size of France, USA, Germany, Spain ect?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

In Spain people fear the Guardia Civil, no one fears the police here

In fact you see footage of people actively challenging them and spitting and coughing, I doubt anyone spat in the face of the Spanish police, and if they did they would be beaten to a pulp with no come backs, so you can't really compare the two

I don't think that is true tbf. I wouldn't think for a moment that theres any merit in advocating a militia type response over our methods for enforcing civil obedience either.

There are powers our police have now that aid them if there is an issue, I haven't seen many cases of assaults thankfully the threat of a long prison sentence is a better deterrent than a smack in the mouth. (Though my guess is they'll get both)

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

So you are saying the UK is the same size of France, USA, Germany, Spain ect?

That's not what you said you said the UK is highly populated for its size...it isn't.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Also to note The UK is highly populated for the size of the country so it's easier for the virus to run through it compared to other countries

Incorrect..


I have a very important couple of stats that prove that.

Ive said it ages ago when the numbers were in the 20s..they are in the 250 region now.


So I live in thurrock a very densely populated area of 170 thousand where towns just flow into the next one.....I come from the Scottish Borders, farming country..so the towns are spaced out and it only has a population of 120 thousand...



Thurrock has had less covid 19 patients than the borders.only by about ten...but it's always been behind them.


Both are doing well I would say though.


Just to add...Thurrock is 30 miles from london at most...and I would say the borders is the same from Edinburgh. ..separated by hills though
...unlike the a13 down here

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That is not true at all.

Care to offer some comparable countries ??

France, Spain and Italy look to be considerably larger than the uk yet we have the largest population by some distance I’d say .


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[Kizzy]

I put bad job as the response was slow, the appropriate advice was not followed by the government themselves leading to us becoming a rudderless state in a pandemic. There has been conflicting statements from ministers suggesting a cover up of misinformation and a poor procurement process for essential services to access adequate equipment.
I only didn't put terrible because nobody has been advised to inject disinfectant. ..yet.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's not what you said you said the UK is highly populated for its size...it isn't.

You are forgetting we are a little island with very little land space with over 60m people all inhabited a virus will spread through this country quicker then it has Germany be they had the space to have the facilities and sanctions we didnt

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Care to offer some comparable countries ??

France, Spain and Italy look to be considerably larger than the uk yet we have the largest population by some distance I’d say .


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No... I was commenting on the suggestion the UK is highly populated only, it isn't.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

You are forgetting we are a little island with very little land space with over 60m people all inhabited a virus will spread through this country quicker then it has Germany be they had the space to have the facilities and sanctions we didnt

We have plenty of land space, the issue is areas of concentrated conurbation ... we need to spread out a bit.