[Nicky91]

we need to do something about those, otherwise there'll Always be more of these ''coronavirusses'' coming back

shame it has gone quiet now regarding this


would make nice debate material i think for these current times, that is a reason i am bringing this forward again

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-04-1...gJy/index.html

[arista]

Yes China is not stopping them.

[Liam-]

Because there are other things happening right now, idk if you’d noticed and they’re hardly our problem, we can’t stop them

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Because there are other things happening right now, idk if you’d noticed and they’re hardly our problem, we can’t stop them

The world should make it their problem tbh

At the very least don't buy from China

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Because there are other things happening right now, idk if you’d noticed and they’re hardly our problem, we can’t stop them

tbf Liam, it is all of our problem at the moment, the "other things" that are happening right now all originated from there, surely that really really makes it our business. If this is really where coronavirus came from then I think it's despicable of China to just reopen them and carry on. Surely they owe it to literally the whole world to do something with these markets to make sure that this won't happen again?

[bitontheslide]

it's not just china that have wet markets, it's common across asia

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The world should make it their problem tbh

At the very least don't buy from China

It is very hard not to, given how tight of a grip China has on manufacturing. Though China is now working on making Africa its workhouse, basically (which IMO is a bad thing, since its exploitation and colonialism)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's not just china that have wet markets, it's common across asia

And we should all make it our business to demand some sort of review of these markets. It's all well and good to say, it their country they can do with they like but when it starts affecting all of our countries then it's very much our business I think. I mean the world literally came to a standstill over this

[arista]

Originally Posted by Scarlett.

It is very hard not to, given how tight of a grip China has on manufacturing. Though China is now working on making Africa its workhouse, basically (which IMO is a bad thing, since its exploitation and colonialism)

Yes China Building
new roads in Africa
to get their Trucks in for the Raw Materials

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Scarlett.

It is very hard not to, given how tight of a grip China has on manufacturing. Though China is now working on making Africa its workhouse, basically (which IMO is a bad thing, since its exploitation and colonialism)

agreed, very wrong

and somehow i can feel for a Hong Kong too for example, why many protesters there are so anti-china and want their independence

[Kizzy]

There needs to be a thought given to food standards across the globe tbh.. including the west.
Look at the 'chlorine washed chicken' debate, a process advocated by some of our ministers, why would a chicken need to be washed? Because the conditions it lived and died in meant it was ridden with disease.

There has been a rise in the use of 'intensive farming' methods for pigs too trapped in a tiny pen and all they can do is eat, left rotting where they fall. How long till this practice spawns a new coronavirus?
The BSE crisis, remember that? came about by feeding cows...to cows!
Yes the wet markets need highlighting, but they are not the only place where the risk exists. Putting pressure closer to home would be advisable too.

[Niamh.]

I don't disagree with you Kizzy but one particular practice, the Wet Markets have actually caused a worldwide pandemic not a hypothetical one so imo, they need to be first on the list

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There needs to be a thought given to food standards across the globe tbh.. including the west.
Look at the 'chlorine washed chicken' debate, a process advocated by some of our ministers, why would a chicken need to be washed? Because the conditions it lived and died in meant it was ridden with disease.

There has been a rise in the use of 'intensive farming' methods for pigs too trapped in a tiny pen and all they can do is eat, left rotting where they fall. How long till this practice spawns a new coronavirus?
The BSE crisis, remember that? came about by feeding cows...to cows!
Yes the wet markets need highlighting, but they are not the only place where the risk exists. Putting pressure closer to home would be advisable too.

yes the mad cow's disease, was quite all over the news here too that time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine...encephalopathy

[Liam-]

When we’ve got through what we’re going through now, then we can try and see what can be done, they’re obviously horrendous things that do awful things to animals and they should definitely be stopped,, I just can’t help but find it a tad bit hypocritical, cause if another country got involved tried to stop us doing something that we do that they didn’t like, I don’t think this country would be as willing to accept it going that way

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

When we’ve got through what we’re going through now, then we can try and see what can be done, they’re obviously horrendous things that do awful things to animals and they should definitely be stopped,, I just can’t help but find it a tad bit hypocritical, cause if another country got involved tried to stop us doing something that we do that they didn’t like, I don’t think this country would be as willing to accept it that way

If the UK caused a worldwide pandemic it would the a pariah state

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If the UK caused a worldwide pandemic it would the a pariah state

We already are, don’t you watch Eurovision?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

When we’ve got through what we’re going through now, then we can try and see what can be done, they’re obviously horrendous things that do awful things to animals and they should definitely be stopped,, I just can’t help but find it a tad bit hypocritical, cause if another country got involved tried to stop us doing something that we do that they didn’t like, I don’t think this country would be as willing to accept it going that way

It's not just stopping it because we don't like it though, they literally brought the whole world to a stop for over two months not to mention all the people that died. Like if this virus originated in some place like that in Ireland for example, we would have gotten crucified, the only reason China has gotten away with it imo is because they're so big and other countries are afraid of them

[James]

Just in the news today it was reported many countries around the world are backing a call from Australia for an independent investigation into the virus.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52679329

[Kizzy]

Many countries have had wet markets for hundreds of years, yes, I totally agree it was going to happen somewhere at sometime.
The cultural aspects of wet markets are easy to investigate and address,but as said the closed nature of China and the possibility of withheld information? Hmm not as easy.

I agree they do need action on wet markets, but also take this as a warning to tighten up on animal welfare and food production everywhere.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

we need to do something about those, otherwise there'll Always be more of these ''coronavirusses'' coming back

shame it has gone quiet now regarding this


would make nice debate material i think for these current times, that is a reason i am bringing this forward again

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-04-1...gJy/index.html

People ,not just those who love animals should be up in arms about this Nicky,this is the cause of the state we are in today,so many animals so cruelly killed in front of others, scalded,beaten,skinned roasted,boiled all when they are still alive,who really would want that to continue, its now our problem aswell, but nothing hardly is mentioned about the places that have caused a world pandamic .It really is disgusting and a blight on humanity.

[bitontheslide]

there is no proof yet that the wet market was the source, i'm much more inclined to believe it originated in their research center

[Kazanne]

There are a few countries apparently who want investigations into the source.