[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except I'm not, it's an opinion and until successful birthrates of severely premature fetuses below 30 weeks match that of full term babies, it's a valid one whether you like it or not.

You have nothing to teach me, so don't try.

The survival rate is roughly 90% of pregnancies that are premature at 27%. You have been caught out on being uneducated and having an unsupported opinion and are continuing to go ahead with it rather than admit to being wrong

Yep those 90% born at 27 weeks old are not lives! It’s dezzys opinion

I have a lot I could educate you on as someone who studied developmental biology at degree level, your opinion is proven misinformed and incorrect by science. Therefore it’s not an opinion in my eyes but just you having misinformed, uneducated views on an area you know little about. A 20-30 week foetus is considered alive, in fact any foetus is alive, but a 20-30 week foetus is definitely considered alive in terms of being almost fully developed for life outside the womb, and like many others have proven to you the majority of 24+ week foetus will survive If born premature. It’s ridiculous to say these foetus are not alive because theyre situated inside the mother

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

The survival rate is roughly 90% of pregnancies that are premature at 27%. You have been caught out on being uneducated and having an unsupported opinion and are continuing to go ahead with it rather than admit to being wrong

Yep those 90% born at 27 weeks old are not lives! It’s dezzys opinion

I have a lot I could educate you on as someone who studied developmental biology at degree level, your opinion is proven misinformed and incorrect by science. A 20-30 week foetus is considered alive, in fact any foetus is alive, but a 20-30 week foetus is definitely considered alive in terms of being almost fully developed for life outside the womb, and like many others have proven to you the majority of 24+ week foetus will survive If born premature

I have a lot I could educate you on because I'm an astrophysicist with doctorates in a plethora of sciences and I currently live on Mars where I study it's landscapes and have BBQs with martians.

Saying you are something and trying to shut down someone by saying that alone is pointless online. There's no reason to believe you and you only really seem to parrot what other people are saying. Your first responses were highly emotional and then you jumped on TS's post and have been riding on it since.

There's absolutely no reason to believe you. Rely on your arguments, not who you say you are. Don't call people uneducated when it's clear that TS is carrying this argument for you.

I don't believe fetuses to be alive in the same way as full term babies are, no one has really been able to argue against my justification which is why TS seems content in shoving words down my throat and you're going on about how educated you are and how dumb I apparently am when you could basically be copying and pasting TS' posts.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except I'm not, it's an opinion and until successful birthrates of severely premature fetuses below 30 weeks match that of full term babies, it's a valid one whether you like it or not.

You have nothing to teach me, so don't try.

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I have a lot I could educate you on because I'm an astrophysicist with doctorates in a plethora of sciences and I currently live on Mars where I study it's landscapes and have BBQs with martians.

Saying you are something and trying to shut down someone by saying that alone is pointless online. There's no reason to believe you and you only really seem to parrot what other people are saying. Your first responses were highly emotional and then you jumped on TS's post and have been riding on it since.

There's absolutely no reason to believe you. Rely on your arguments, not who you say you are. Don't call people uneducated when it's clear that TS is carrying this argument for you.

I don't believe fetuses to be alive in the same way as full term babies are, no one has really been able to argue against my justification which is why TS seems content in shoving words down my throat and you're going on about how educated you are and how dumb I apparently am when you could basically be copying and pasting TS' posts.

I mean someone who has studied developmental biology at degree level does make them more informed when posting about pre mature births/foetus life.. that’s like saying an online doctor/GP over Babylon/some other service to diagnose your medical condition is Pointless!! And why not just knock on neighbour Karen’s door instead as she will have an opinion of what that bruise/lump is!

I use my phone and don’t own a laptop so I do not have time to spend hours posting all the evidence why you are incorrect and misformed, but you are correct TS has already done a jolly good job of that

I am calling you uneducated on this matter.. because you clearly are.. I mean the forum can see that from reading your posts. Calling it an ‘opinion’ to get away from that does not count.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I mean someone who has studied developmental biology at degree level does make them more informed when posting about pre mature births/foetus life.. that’s like saying an online doctor/GP over Babylon/some other service to diagnose your medical condition is Pointless!! And why not just knock on neighbour Karen’s door instead as she will have an opinion of what that bruise/lump is!

I use my phone and don’t own a laptop so I do not have time to spend hours posting all the evidence why you are incorrect and misformed, but you are correct TS has already done a jolly good job of that

I am calling you uneducated on this matter.. because you clearly are.. I mean the forum can see that from reading your posts. Calling it an ‘opinion’ to get away from that does not count.

The issue of abortion is as much philosophical one as medical when it comes to things like abortion rights. And my opinion, like others is backed up by stats. I consider life to begin at birth and birth tends to be most successful around 30+ weeks mark. When science and technology can guarantee the same level of success for severely premature babies then i'll change my mind but you nor anyone else has offered up anything compelling enough to change my mind.

You can claim to be anything you want but I just don't believe you, rely on your supposed knowledge, not bleating on about how you're a student and this supposedly makes you instantly correct.

Everything on this forum is an opinion, for someone who likes to call people uneducated, it says a lot you don't understand that.