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Originally Posted by James

Some people from a couple of film podcasts I listen to had a (fairly balanced) discussion about this subject. I thought it was interesting and would share it here (about an hour long).

Youtube video

These are the cases that were mentioned of non-celebrities who got 'cancelled':

PR executive who go fired after a tweet - https://www.google.com/search?q=Just...hrome&ie=UTF-8

and

'Husband-and-wife Yale professors resign in the wake of Halloween costume scandal' https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...t-yale/484418/ & https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ume-email.html

This is about the book 'So You've Been Publicly Shamed' by Jon Ronson.



From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_You...ublicly_Shamed

I'm just over half way through that video, I'll finish it on my way home from work. It's good, a few thoughts so far :

- I don't want to get into the rights or wrongs of JK Rowlings tweets but I have to agree with one of the guys when he points out about her(and not just her, it could apply to a lot of other people too) which has been a big problem of mine with "cancel culture" (or whatever you want to call it) He said that, this is one topic that she has a different opinion on to some people, particularly very "liberal" or left wing people however probably 80% of her other views are probably toeing the party line so to speak but you have a different opinion on one thing from the "approved opinions list" and suddenly you're far right and a villain. This whole left or right thing and nothing in between just seems bad to me for individuality and for good reasoned discussions in general. Can we agree on a lot of things but not on others and still get on with each other anymore?

- Then one of the other speakers who doesn't think cancel culture is a thing mentioned the extreme reactions on Twitter, he said that's not normal people "canceling" someone, that's just Trolls and while I kind of agree with him to a point, it seems to me that these trolls are almost taking over twitter and becoming acceptable and people don't really challenge them much and I feel like people actually think they're justified in some way? And if you say "hey, I don't agree with this person's opinion on this particular subject but she doesn't deserve death threats or rape threats etc etc" you're also cast out for not joining the pile on or saying that someone on your side has gone too far. So yeah you can say "oh yeah but that bad ones are trolls" but if people are allowing this big number of trolls to abuse and target people and even agree with them, isn't that still cancel culture?

- So far the biggest thing I've agreed with is Twitter is a hell hole and people should stop posting there