[The Slim Reaper]

There's a real divide in the country between those that care and those that don't.

[Captain.Remy]

Welcome and congrats to all the people arriving safely today!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There's a real divide in the country between those that care and those that don't.

...well it’s only going to get more and more divided, I think...a recession will cause that......

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Welcome and congrats to all the people arriving safely today!

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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...well it’s only going to get more and more divided, I think...a recession will cause that......

Then throw a no-deal brexit onto a recession and this country doesn't realise what's about to hit it.

Asylum seekers are just a distraction being used so people look at the new shiny thing instead of what the government is actually doing.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Then throw a no-deal brexit onto a recession and this country doesn't realise what's about to hit it.

Asylum seekers are just a distraction being used so people look at the new shiny thing instead of what the government is actually doing.

...yeah absolutely...it’s a trick as old as time, isn’t it...’ooooo, look over there...’....

...*steals the purse*....

[joeysteele]

It's quite a telling poll.
How many were asked however.

Quite telling CON voters and Leave voters have not much or no sympathy.
Sounds about right,( possibly not on just this issue even as to that).

Is the question as to sympathy or no sympathy at them taking risks crossing or as to the human beings themselves?

Would be interesting to see both those points put to these participants of this poll.

Although, only my view, NOT FACT, before I'm jumped on.
I personally doubt the result would be much different.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's quite a telling poll.
How many were asked however.

Quite telling CON voters and Leave voters have not much or no sympathy.
Sounds about right,( possibly not on just this issue even that).

Is the question as to sympathy or no sympathy at them taking risks crossing or as to the human beings themselves?

Would be interesting to see both those points out to these participants of this poll.

Although, only my view, NOT FACT, before I'm jumped on.
I personally doubt the result would be much different.

It's yougov, which is normally around 1500-2000 I think, and it is tory owned, but it doesn't seem especially off to me, when we look at the brexit results, and the fact legal immigration sent them into a tizzy, never mind brown people arriving in dinghies,

[bots]

i have no sympathy for immigrants travelling from france illegally, they have no reason to be doing it, they are safe in France.

I am getting angry at that viewpoint being considered racist, it's not

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's yougov, which is normally around 1500-2000 I think, and it is tory owned, but it doesn't seem especially off to me, when we look at the brexit results, and the fact legal immigration sent them into a tizzy, never mind brown people arriving in dinghies,

Yes, sounds right that Slim Reaper.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i have no sympathy for immigrants travelling from france illegally, they have no reason to be doing it, they are safe in France.

I am getting angry at that viewpoint being considered racist, it's not

They are asylum seekers, not immigrants.

So should all of the worlds asylum seekers stop in France? If you lived in France, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be saying they're safe here, so they should stay here.

[Ammi]

...asylum seekers are entitled to have their cases looked at and decided upon...not all will be allowed to stay anyway and maybe only a small minority are...I don’t know the percentages...and if they are given leave to remain, they get quite basic allowances while work is being looked for etc...we don’t know why someone would come to the U.K. as opposed to France...maybe they have family in the U.K., so it would make sense this being their destination country...

[The Slim Reaper]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i have no sympathy for immigrants travelling from france illegally, they have no reason to be doing it, they are safe in France.

I am getting angry at that viewpoint being considered racist, it's not

The patriarchy is alive and well in this issue, I wonder would the sentiment be the same if it were boatloads of young white men leaving their vulnerable family members behind

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The patriarchy is alive and well in this issue, I wonder would the sentiment be the same if it were boatloads of young white men leaving their vulnerable family members behind

I think the right wingers would be far more accepting of white people yes

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The patriarchy is alive and well in this issue, I wonder would the sentiment be the same if it were boatloads of young white men leaving their vulnerable family members behind

Patriarchy? What does that mean in the context of opinions in this thread? This thread is mostly page after page of anti asylum seeker bs, but a few dissenting posts equals what exactly?

Of course it would be the same if young, white, men, women, and children were fleeing the conditions that these people are. It's not the brown skin that makes them worthy of assistance, it's the fact we caused a lot of these problems, and they're people, not trash or parasites, or an invading force.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i have no sympathy for immigrants travelling from France illegally, they have no reason to be doing it, they are safe in France.

I am getting angry at that viewpoint being considered racist, it's not

Good Points

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I think the right wingers would be far more accepting of white people yes

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Patriarchy? What does that mean in the context of opinions in this thread? This thread is mostly page after page of anti asylum seeker bs, but a few dissenting posts equals what exactly?

Of course it would be the same if young, white, men, women, and children were fleeing the conditions that these people are. It's not the brown skin that makes them worthy of assistance, it's the fact we caused a lot of these problems, and they're people, not trash or parasites, or an invading force.

Lol it’s not women and children fleeing France though is it, that’s my point it’s boatloads of young fit men who have the edge because of their gender

Again, I will reiterate, we need to be taking families and vulnerable people from camps and every boatload arriving illegally means less of that happening

[Ammi]

...I read an article quite recently that said the percentage of young adult men seeking asylum had stayed pretty flat in its figures for the last 10 years...and it’s a lower percentage of granted asylum as it is with families...I guess there will always be working age males though who would be looking to work and send money to their families in their home country...and hope for them to join them in the future as well...I don’t know if that’s the case...but we don’t see all ‘arrivals’ of those seeking asylum in the U.K. and then there is a whole, lengthy process to go through and we don’t know who is granted and who isn’t...many, many will be turned away and will return to their home countries, I would think...Nigel Farage has just so, so much to answer for...while he sits there with his glass of Port and cigar, or whatever he does...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I read an article quite recently that said the percentage of young adult men seeking asylum had stayed pretty flat in its figures for the last 10 years...and it’s a lower percentage of granted asylum as it is with families...I guess there will always be working age males though who would be looking to work and send money to their families in their home country...and hope for them to join them in the future as well...I don’t know if that’s the case...but we don’t see all ‘arrivals’ of those seeking asylum in the U.K. and then there is a whole, lengthy process to go through and we don’t know who is granted and who isn’t...many, many will be turned away and will return to their home countries, I would think...Nigel Farage has just so, so much to answer for...while he sits there with his glass of Port and cigar, or whatever he does...

if that is the case why are they not seeking to settle and work in many of the safe countries they have travelled through? if my family was depending on me why would I risk my life crossing the channel to spend months awaiting processing, makes no sense to me anyway

I feel sorry for those that have families here though from what I have seen reported it tends to be cousins and more extended family rather than immediate family

The BBC followed a family in a camp in Syria for a year, it was so uplifting to see that family fjnally being brought to the UK and settled in a home, and ready to integrate into the community, and the opportunity for their girls to start school

[Captain.Remy]

A new day of people arriving, congrats for making it through guys! A little bit of love for them!

[Cherie]

Leaving what must be the ****hole that is France, as they are so desperate to leave

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Leaving what must be the ****hole that is their homecountry, as they are so desperate to leave

Edited slightly because they're not from France, you know.

They probably have good reasons to want to move to the UK They probably like English tea better than coffee, that must be the only reason they left their homecountry in the first place.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Edited slightly because they're not from France, you know.

They probably have good reasons to want to move to the UK They probably like English tea better than coffee, that must be the only reason they left their homecountry in the first place.

France must be a terrible place as they risk their lives to flee

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

France must be a terrible place as they risk their lives to flee

Or maybe it was their initial goal to get to the UK? Who knows. Certainly not any of us.

Anyway, I'm not here to do the whole discussion thing again, I did it previously in this thread and it's never ending. Just here to show daily support and love to people who have terrible lives and made it to where they wanted to be with the hope to live a happier life. Love love love.