[Liam-]

Nobody bats an eyelid when put out songs about sex, but woman are still expected to remain silent about their sexualities, is the song great? No, is it going to forward the feminist movement any? No, but who cares? It’s just a song, I will never understand why things like this trigger people so much, especially the blokes who probably watch porn on the regs but have a coronary whenever a women talks about sex.

And as for Brand, I love him, but he is a hypocrite, he made a career from being a famous sex addict, that was his whole shtick, he gave a bloke a handjob in a public bathroom for a tv show ffs.

[Ammi]

...I do t really know how I feel about what he’s saying....I want to give it more thought...but if this is just emulating ‘Male’ hip hop in terms of having a sexist/male dominated content...etc...?...why are these things only analysed when it’s females doing the same or similar things...why does it take females to produce this type of content, for Russell of anyone to feel its discussion worthy..?...

[Ammi]

....also, did he describe it as erotica/he sees it as erotica...?...but isn’t that also the thing that often happens with females...that ‘erotica’ is only how he’s seeing the ladies...I didn’t see them as that...

[Ammi]

...will think about this...

[Ammi]

...I just wish these things were not just discussed when it’s females and more dismissed/disregarded/ignored/or whatever when it’s males...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I just wish these things were not just discussed when it’s females and more dismissed/disregarded/ignored/or whatever when it’s males...

That is true, both are trash imo I suppose its discussed more when its women because it happens less but I still definitely agree with your point

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That is true, both are trash imo I suppose its discussed more when its women because it happens less but I still definitely agree with your point

...yeah, I just think that if this is a worthy discussion...then why isn’t/wasn’t it worthy with so many songs where the sexual content is so male dominated ...and yet this one song...?...and apparently it’s discussable and inferring that it shouldn’t be something that’s okay for either without labelling it ‘erotica’, like in the discussion/or opinion vid...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Nobody bats an eyelid when put out songs about sex, but woman are still expected to remain silent about their sexualities, is the song great? No, is it going to forward the feminist movement any? No, but who cares? It’s just a song, I will never understand why things like this trigger people so much, especially the blokes who probably watch porn on the regs but have a coronary whenever a women talks about sex.

And as for Brand, I love him, but he is a hypocrite, he made a career from being a famous sex addict, that was his whole shtick, he gave a bloke a handjob in a public bathroom for a tv show ffs.

I certainly don't think women should remain silent about our sexualities but i don't really believe that she wants a cock rammed down her throat either so is she being honest about her sexuality or is it more like what TS said and playing more to what men like to think women want sexually?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I certainly don't think women should remain silent about our sexualities but i don't really believe that she wants a cock rammed down her throat either so is she being honest about her sexuality or is it more like what TS said and playing more to what men like to think women want sexually?

Who knows what she enjoys? Not to get too graphic but ‘’throat ****ing’ is a practiced sexual activity, she could very well enjoy it, I personally couldn’t care less if she does it or not, that’s her business, what bothers me is that women are held to a much higher standard than men when it comes to sex and expressing themselves around it, you can pretty much guarantee men like Brand or Shapiro would have nothing to say if a bloke released this song from their perspective

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Who knows what she enjoys? Not to get too graphic but ‘’throat ****ing’ is a practiced sexual activity, she could very well enjoy it, I personally couldn’t care less if she does it or not, that’s her business, what bothers me is that women are held to a much higher standard than men when it comes to sex and expressing themselves around it, you can pretty much guarantee men like Brand or Shapiro would have nothing to say if a bloke released this song from their perspective

Maybe she does but I'm willing to bet most women don't. I have heard of throat ****ing and I'm pretty sure it's mainly done for the enjoyment if the giver rather than the receiver.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Nobody bats an eyelid when put out songs about sex, but woman are still expected to remain silent about their sexualities, is the song great? No, is it going to forward the feminist movement any? No, but who cares? It’s just a song, I will never understand why things like this trigger people so much, especially the blokes who probably watch porn on the regs but have a coronary whenever a women talks about sex.

And as for Brand, I love him, but he is a hypocrite, he made a career from being a famous sex addict, that was his whole shtick, he gave a bloke a handjob in a public bathroom for a tv show ffs.

Pretending that emulation and subversion of aggressive male sexual norms that objectify the female is somehow empowering for the female because it "takes back agency" of these male-focused porn acts is... Well, it's a take. A bit too much from the "confused progressive" slant, if I'm honest. A bit.

If I though it was a satire or parody of male rappers then maybe? Maybe it is, and then maybe it is clever. But I sadly suspect its playing into the same largely misogynistic male-rapper-tropes but "With a female doing it OHHH!!" and that's a bit sad. I mean the whole thing is overlaid with a male voice looping "we got some hoes in this house".

Like I said though, maybe it's a social commentary satire and it's going over my head.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Nobody bats an eyelid when put out songs about sex, but woman are still expected to remain silent about their sexualities, is the song great? No, is it going to forward the feminist movement any? No, but who cares? It’s just a song, I will never understand why things like this trigger people so much, especially the blokes who probably watch porn on the regs but have a coronary whenever a women talks about sex.

And as for Brand, I love him, but he is a hypocrite, he made a career from being a famous sex addict, that was his whole shtick, he gave a bloke a handjob in a public bathroom for a tv show ffs.

WHAT!!?? When was this ???!!