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Old 16-08-2020, 01:03 PM #501
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Neither paint a true picture, not appreciating that is iffy to me
False equivalence; Farage used that propaganda in the last weeks of the referendum to lie people into voting for brexit, someone knocked the pic I posted, up on their home pc in 10 minute to mock what the tories have done. There is nothing remotely similar about these 2 things.
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Would you apply that at airports as well, just scrap passport checkpoint?
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It's not immigrants that are pushing the country to breaking point, it's the rich that's bleeding it dry.
Absolutely right.

It's worrying really the lack of both compassion and understanding for asylum seekers in my view.

While I accept it's really bad that people are making money out of their desperation to travel in substandard boats or even a frightening dinghy.

Surely decent governments and those in power can find much easier and safer ways to not only remove that exploitation of asylum seekers.
Also to then set out on an agenda of supporting and protecting them.

Respecting them for the human beings they are and not treating them like they've no worth.
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It's not immigrants that are pushing the country to breaking point, it's the rich that's bleeding it dry.
yup Britain still believing they are an empire is their biggest mistake, something which aren't anymore

can easily understand why a country like Australia has changed its national anthem, and also one country which easily can be seen as to having decent border/custom protocols (which i see in their reality show Border Security)


but back on topic, immigrants should be allowed to live in UK if they want to, be allowed to work in UK if they want to, which is also why brexit is wrong, it ruins lives of foreigners whom already have worked longer period of time in UK, basically built their lives up, children going to schools too in UK, a terrifying thought if brexit ruins all of that
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That would be fun, bring it
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#citizenoftheworld in your Insta bio?
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That's economic then, not asylum, lets call it what it is rather than wrapping it up in the Asylum blanket. Also it doesn't say much for the French economy if they can't make a life there, but that' s another story.
Not sure how you got this from the post you quoted, it proves to me one thing, that the anti asylum seeker propaganda is working as well now as it did in the 30s.

You looked at that picture of a desperate man and his child and you made a glib comment with a laughing face.
In this comment you admit you don't class anyone who reaches British waters as a refugee at all.

All the facts on those claiming asylum are lost as you appear to be directly quoting right wing tabloid soundbites.
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Absolutely right.

It's worrying really the lack of both compassion and understanding for asylum seekers in my view.

While I accept it's really bad that people are making money out of their desperation to travel in substandard boats or even a frightening dinghy.

Surely decent governments and those in power can find much easier and safer ways to not only remove that exploitation of asylum seekers.
Also to then set out on an agenda of supporting and protecting them.

Respecting them for the human beings they are and not treating them like they've no worth.
I'm sorry but they can all **** off back to where they come from until we can assure ourselves that there are no extremists amongst them like the Boston bombers or Manchester bombers..I'm afraid the risk of bloodshed of our own people just aint worth the risk of bringing them here.

Crime is already rising in the areas they re being housed.
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...just kind of connected to that story, Kizzy...well It’s all connected in that, how asylum seekers are often portrayed in the media in a way that can cause resentment ...on a neutral site which just gives fiscal information, the cost of an ‘immigrant’ is something that can’t be accurately assessed because each individual would be different...are they working, do they have a skill, is schooling required/a family...and etc, etc, there is no single ‘correct’ answer...anyway though...most studies suggest that the fiscal impact of immigration in the UK is relatively small....(amounting to less than 1% of the country's overall Gross Domestic Product...)...


...in contrast, a DM article...?...would tell us that immigration costs the U.K. Ł17billion every year...(...which might still amount to less than 1%, I’m not sure...)...but it’s a much more negatively provocative way of saying...and that’s the vein with much of the media of how we’re led with immigration...that an immigrant ‘would consume far more in public services and benefits than they pay in taxes.‘...that they’re provided with health, education, policing, roads and other services, when many immigrants come to seek work and are working contributors to all of these things...anyways, the media article slant of ‘taking back control of our borders..’...is designed to create resentment, which then can lead to prejudices...
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there is no problem with immigration, but it must be done legally, i would have thought that was obvious
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...it really isn’t up to us to say or speculate what’s legal because we just don’t know, it’s all so media led and slanted...with the help of Farage, type people, obviously...for those who are not granted stay in the U.K., then they won’t be allowed to...but if they are, that means they were deemed legally entitled to...
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new refugees soon incoming towards UK, maybe US too

from Belarus, those who are anti-lukashenko


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I'm sorry but they can all **** off back to where they come from until we can assure ourselves that there are no extremists amongst them like the Boston bombers or Manchester bombers..I'm afraid the risk of bloodshed of our own people just aint worth the risk of bringing them here.

Crime is already rising in the areas they re being housed.
This post is everything I disagree with as to the tone, inferences and even pre conceived judgements of attitude from any in this Nation, towards those hopefully seeking security and a new hope and life.
It represents, possibly only in my view, the worst of thinking.

That's all I'm going to say.
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I'm sorry but they can all **** off back to where they come from until we can assure ourselves that there are no extremists amongst them like the Boston bombers or Manchester bombers..I'm afraid the risk of bloodshed of our own people just aint worth the risk of bringing them here.

Crime is already rising in the areas they re being housed.
the xenophobia stench in this post
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but anyway i am also against that same anti-immigrant attitude from my parents

i just mean, we do not know what they have experienced like in their own countries, our own privileges and no i am not talking about class now, but of course it is always better in countries like UK, USA, Netherlands, scandinavian ones like Norway, Sweden

i just am fed up by that xenophobia, hatred towards immigrants by now, and the ''crime excuse'' well if there weren't immigrants there would still be crime so
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No problem with it either, given I am one myself but it has to be managed properly

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This post is everything I disagree with as to the tone, inferences and even pre conceived judgements of attitude from any in this Nation, towards those hopefully seeking security and a new hope and life.
It represents, possibly only in my view, the worst of thinking.

That's all I'm going to say.
And it's the burying the head in the sand attitude that has already allowed the bloodshed in this and other countries from immigrants hell bent on terror, I'm sorry but the risks of it happening again far out way my concern for these free loaders.

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