[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Does chlorine kill the coronavirus?
“The coronavirus doesn’t survive in chlorinated water,” infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, MD, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in Maryland, tells Health.

But that doesn’t mean you can’t get COVID-19 while in a swimming pool. Coronavirus is a respiratory illness, which means it spreads when droplets from the mouth or nose fly through the air. So anywhere you’re interacting with others who are talking, coughing, or sneezing—even if you’re in the water—puts you at risk of inhaling a droplet from an infected person.

Dr. Adalja says the biggest risk of going to the pool lies out of the water. “There can be crowded conditions and common touch surfaces (like the deck and the locker room) that may provide an opportunity for the virus to transmit,” he says.

I'm aware of the crowded conditions being a risk, and the risk once out of the pool in the dry areas.
My point was covid can't survive in the water, if you were 2 metres apart, say lane swimming) it would be no different to walking past someone outside.

[Ammi]

Oldham feared to be on brink of 'catastrophic' coronavirus lockdown...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/oldham-fea...160326770.html

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm aware of the crowded conditions being a risk, and the risk once out of the pool in the dry areas.
My point was covid can't survive in the water, if you were 2 metres apart, say lane swimming) it would be no different to walking past someone outside.

there is a difference because swimmers are breathing much more aggressively, so it will spread more

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there is a difference because swimmers are breathing much more aggressively, so it will spread more

You could say that about joggers, are you going to ban jogging?

[arista]

[arista]

Coronavirus: Labour calls for Evictions ban
to be extended

[The government introduced the ban in March
to help those financially hit by the coronavirus lockdown.
Homeless charity Shelter estimates 227,000
private renters have fallen into arrears since the pandemic
and could lose their homes when the
ban on evictions is lifted on 23 August.
The government said it would
offer "appropriate support" to renters.
New evictions in England and Wales had initially been
suspended until 25 June,
but the pause was extended to 23 August.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53821911

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/0...-key-dutch-pm/

No More Parties in the Garden, Working at Home remains vital, even after september

no more gatherings with more than 6 people at home


https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/0...be-stepped-up/

Amsterdam has last warning according to mayor Halsema, if things don't start to improve now, we need to be looking at going back to lockdown

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You could say that about joggers, are you going to ban jogging?

We should probably ban those running clubs you see everywhere.

Not because of Covid, just 'cos they're full of arseholes.

[Nicky91]

our PM Rutte was pretty much pissed at us last night


our health minister De Jonge: Corona doesn't stop until it has taken down all of us, so we need to work together to beat Corona

[Toy Soldier]

The issue of "the highstreet" is a complicated one. It was already dying anyway, companies knew that, most high-street retail workers are aware of that... But lockdown has massively accelerated things by a good 3 to 5 years and its happening all at once rather than gradually store by store.

What makes it complicated is that, because it was just an acceleration of something that was already happening and not a "lockdown related freak occurrence", it's going to be very hard to reverse the trend. People were already abandoning the high street. If Covid does eventually disappear, even that won't be enough to tempt back half of the lost business.

Ita something I'm conflicted about really. I mean I get that the jobs situation is awful, and I also have my reservations about retail money all flowing in the same directions (Amazon et al.) but in the other hand, the consumer choice, better prices, and convenience of online shopping just realistically make the high street experience obsolete. I can't even remember the last time I made a major (let's say £200+) purchase in a physical store. Probably the PS3 in like 2008.

[bitontheslide]

the world has changed forever. The high street needs to be replaced by affordable housing and leisure spaces. This has been patently obvious for some time but high street chains have been hanging on for dear life. I know several online businesses (not retail) that have advanced their business by 3-5 years ahead of expectation, this is largely due to people working from home, and while it may reverse a bit it wont return to how it was before. Airlines, the car industry, transport are all going to have to re-adjust to reflect the new reality. For example train ticket prices are due to rise in January ... that's just not going to realistically happen because they just don't have the numbers travelling.

From a brexit perspective, this event couldn't have come at a better time because it's not just us that are looking for a new norm, it's the whole world. Hold on to your hats ......

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the world has changed forever. The high street needs to be replaced by affordable housing and leisure spaces. This has been patently obvious for some time but high street chains have been hanging on for dear life. I know several online businesses (not retail) that have advanced their business by 3-5 years ahead of expectation, this is largely due to people working from home, and while it may reverse a bit it wont return to how it was before. Airlines, the car industry, transport are all going to have to re-adjust to reflect the new reality. For example train ticket prices are due to rise in January ... that's just not going to realistically happen because they just don't have the numbers travelling.

From a brexit perspective, this event couldn't have come at a better time because it's not just us that are looking for a new norm, it's the whole world. Hold on to your hats ......

yup and if you cannot adapt to this new world, bad luck then

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You could say that about joggers, are you going to ban jogging?

Actually Kizzy joggers annoy me.

A few times I've been heading to a store, I've seen elderly people now walking in the street, with their masks on.

Then joggers, no masks obviously, come charging along, running past those elderly walking.
Puffing and panting.

No respect for distance either, just running past people walking.

So I'd maybe suggest joggers run where only they can be in open spaces and not in built up public places.

There was a group of them the other morning, all running together too.

Fine out in the country, not where others, or those more vulnerable may be however.

[arista]

[Pizza Express to close 73 outlets hitting 1,100 jobs

The chain, which at the moment has 454 UK outlets,
said it had cut a deal to reduce rent costs.
It said although most of its restaurants have
been profitable over the past three years,
earnings had been declining.
Pizza Express also confirmed it had hired
advisers from Lazard to lead a sale process for the business.
It is currently majority owned by
Chinese firm Hony Capital.]


Has a long list of the 73 to sadly close
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53830064

[arista]

Blair Live on SkyNewsHD
wants more mass testing.

[Ammi]

A-level results row: Matt Hancock 'recognises' concerns over medical student places...


The government is warned a "deeply worrying" number of those affected come from areas under-served by doctors.

The health secretary has pledged to do "everything we can" to ensure A-level medical students unfairly downgraded can still get a place at university.

Matt Hancock told Sky News "I absolutely recognise" the concerns raised by the Royal College of GPs that pupils whose marks were lower than their teachers' predictions are missing out on their top choice for further study.

It is just one of the many practical problems thrown up by the exams U-turn earlier this week.

Professor Martin Marshall, chair of the Royal College of GPs, claimed a "large number of potential medical students" have missed out on their university place due to the decision that came five days after results were released last Thursday.

He said it was "deeply worrying" that students affected may come from areas which are under-doctored.



The number of places are "strictly limited" due to a government cap on funding, Prof Marshall added.


At least 20% more places to study medicine are needed just to ensure there are enough GPs in the future, he continued.

...rest of the article...

https://news.sky.com/story/a-level-r...laces-12052155

[Niamh.]

[parmnion]

We shall test them at the airports, we shall test them in the car parks...we should test them on the beaches.

[parmnion]

My nephew has corona, he went on holiday last week and 1 person tested positive since.

He was contacted via track and trace and asked to go for a test. He did. It came back positive, he has to isolate for ten days and can go back to work on the 11th day if he has shown no fever.

[arista]

Scotland has extended
the Aberdeen Lock down.

The Local Council
are Angry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...tland-53833513

Ref: Ch4HDnews


Also
Coronavirus: Dundee school closed after six adults test positive


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...ntral-53840123

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

A Chinese bloke is it not that's got it in that photo...just saying..

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by parmnion

My nephew has corona, he went on holiday last week and 1 person tested positive since.

He was contacted via track and trace and asked to go for a test. He did. It came back positive, he has to isolate for ten days and can go back to work on the 11th day if he has shown no fever.

The system works

[MTVN]

Good to see a low case number today and hospital admissions still declining, all looking positive still here

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Scotland has extended
the Aberdeen Lock down.

The Local Council
are Angry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...tland-53833513

Ref: Ch4HDnews


Also
Coronavirus: Dundee school closed after six adults test positive


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...ntral-53840123

The right thing in my view.
Better safe than sorry.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by MTVN

The system works

It will if he can control his urges.