[bitontheslide]

there has obviously been a breakdown in relations between her and her parents, and it will be a lot deeper than their attitudes on dieting. It seems to me that the whole thing is a setup and she is cashing in on her parents success. No "normal" family would air their grievances in public - it's no-one elses business

[Kizzy]

It just seems odd to me that someone complaining about being given bad advice is in turn offering out equally bad advice.

The advice and support she was offered by her parents didn't work for her, that's not really a reason to brand all diets toxic, A healthy diet plan can work for many.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who said she did, reduces the stigma of what? What does she need help for, she's a body positivity inluencer with 1000s of instagram followers. As she says she's more confident in her own skin than her leaner friends... so where's the issue?

None of this relates to anything I said, so I'll assume you quoted the wrong post. No worries.

[Cherie]

I wonder at the timing, maybe like most caring parents they are concerned about her size during a pandemic where being overweight does not help fight the virus, maybe they are concerned that being a 'fat activist' at this current time isn't particularly helpful to people desperately trying to lose weight, if she is fine in her own skin and taking responsibility for her own health, no bother, but 'influencing' others ..nah

[Marsh.]

Given her penchant for "speaking out" against her parents in the past to publicly disagree with something they've done or commented on I think she's attention seeking first and foremost. The easiest way to do that is to jump on dad's fame.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

None of this relates to anything I said, so I'll assume you quoted the wrong post. No worries.

Ok I'm not looking to get into any 'I said,you said' that might derail the conversation either.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ok I'm not looking to get into any 'I said,you said' that might derail the conversation either.

I said there's no worries.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I said there's no worries.

And I said ok.

[Toy Soldier]

I just watched the clip and she doesn't even slam them. She says they "offered her solutions to a problem she brought to them; wanting to lose weight - and the solutions they offered were various diets".

She says it was in hindsight bad advice, which it is, but she isn'tsaying they should have known better or deliberately shamed her, just that, giving it thought, the advice could have been better. How is that "slamming them"? I don't get it, really. Plays into this idea that parents are supposed to be infallible and that her saying they gave out some bad advice means they were terrible or did something really wrong... when that's not even what she's doing. Not in the clip I saw, anyway. I'm sure I'll give my kids a tonne of pish advice as they grow up and I'll be happy enough for them to say so when they're adults .

I can only imagine that the idea that she's "slamming them" comes from the nonsensical and unhealthy idea that adult children should have some sort of reverence for their parents. Yawn.

[Kizzy]

There is no expectation of reverence, respect maybe?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but as you know even us parents don't possess it.

The use of language is important using words like toxic are designed specifically to make you feel they almost force fed her salad!

Whats the deal that diets don't work anyway? Many do diet and succeed?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I just watched the clip and she doesn't even slam them. She says they "offered her solutions to a problem she brought to them; wanting to lose weight - and the solutions they offered were various diets".

She says it was in hindsight bad advice, which it is, but she isn'tsaying they should have known better or deliberately shamed her, just that, giving it thought, the advice could have been better. How is that "slamming them"? I don't get it, really. Plays into this idea that parents are supposed to be infallible and that her saying they gave out some bad advice means they were terrible or did something really wrong... when that's not even what she's doing. Not in the clip I saw, anyway. I'm sure I'll give my kids a tonne of pish advice as they grow up and I'll be happy enough for them to say so when they're adults .

I can only imagine that the idea that she's "slamming them" comes from the nonsensical and unhealthy idea that adult children should have some sort of reverence for their parents. Yawn.

Same old tabloid fodder.

Anytime one celebrity disagrees with another on twitter it leads to a slew of "x SLAMMED by y" articles.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Whats the deal that diets don't work anyway? Many do diet and succeed?

Depends what she means by it. If they were fad diets, then they are harmful and toxic or whether she means they simply tried helping her to change the quality and quantity of food she was consuming.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Depends what she means by it. If they were fad diets, then they are harmful and toxic or whether she means they simply tried helping her to change the quality and quantity of food she was consuming.

There was no explanation, just an umberella over 'diets'. Which again is bad advice, it's akin to saying 'don't attempt any change of diet, it won't work'! That's really negative.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There was no explanation, just an umberella over 'diets'.

I know. I said "depends what she means".

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There is no expectation of reverence, respect maybe?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but as you know even us parents don't possess it.

The use of language is important using words like toxic are designed specifically to make you feel they almost force fed her salad!

Whats the deal that diets don't work anyway? Many do diet and succeed?

I don't see what's disrespectful about an adult stating they disagree with a parenting choice their parents made, unless there's an expectation of reverence. You can acknowledge that your parents were only human, that they were doing what they thought was best, that they had good intentions, whilst still commenting that a choice they made affected you badly. I don't see why a parent would have any problem with that, either, unless they find it "disrespectful" to be questioned by their offspring. I'm aware that many do feel that way of course.

Changing your diet permanently (if it's bad) works, a healthier lifestyle in general works... "temporary" diets tend not to work because they have an end date and more often than not, weight goes back on as soon as the dieting is finished. That can be "toxic" because reaching a goal weight only to wake up 6 months later as overweight as ever can be even more disheartening than not losing the weight in the first place.

The focus should always be cutting junk, cutting portion sizes if they're excessive, and a more active lifestyle... permanently. The reason a lot of people are overweight isn't even "bad food"... it's large portion sizes and sedentary lifestyle.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I know. I said "depends what she means".

Yes you did, I was just clarifying my point a bit better.