[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

No, because we're both supposed to be liberal democracies, not countries like North Korea.

We are though(lib) which is why all sides must be seriously listened to.

It shouldn't be one side against the other. True liberalism is accepting both sides and bringing it all together as one...A balance must be met, and I think the scales are tipping too far one way now.


And wouldn't North Korea force people onto boats. I wonder!!!!


Vive le france

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

We are though(lib) which is why all sides must be seriously listened to.

It shouldn't be one side against the other. True liberalism is accepting both sides and bringing it all together as one...A balance must be met, and I think the scales are tipping too far one way now.


And wouldn't North Korea force people onto boats. I wonder!!!!


Vive le france

The government is hard right, supported by a hard right press, and the left (although blair was never a leftist) haven't held power for over a decade. If it was really skewed too far one way in reality rather than propaganda, who put it too far? The left is powerless in this country so please explain.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The government is hard right, supported by a hard right press, and the left (although blair was never a leftist) haven't held power for over a decade. If it was really skewed too far one way in reality rather than propaganda, who put it too far? The left is powerless in this country so please explain.

I think all the terrorism we have seen has caused it...what we need to do is find a reason for this terrorism..

Hmmm..may I suggest illegal wars to start with, then we can move on from there.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I think all the terrorism we have seen has caused it...what we need to do is find a reason for this terrorism..

Hmmm..may I suggest illegal wars to start with, then we can move on from there.

That doesn't really make any sense, but appreciate you trying.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That doesn't really make any sense, but appreciate you trying.

Terrorism by muslims has caused people to feel the same as some people thought of the Irish for years....thankfully we have overcame that)

To remain on the IRA theme......

The brits caused the hatred, and the same happened when labour started an illegal war with Iraq...only it's not the Irish hating us this time due to our own disdain as a nation

[Cherie]

Don’t worry I still hate you all

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Terrorism by muslims has caused people to feel the same as some people thought of the Irish for years....thankfully we have overcame that)

To remain on the IRA theme......

The brits caused the hatred, and the same happened when labour started an illegal war with Iraq...only it's not the Irish hating us this time due to our own disdain as a nation

What? Muslim terrorism is the reason things got too lax, and is also the reason why people are now turning against refugees? There is nothing in that sentence that makes any sense.

I agree about the illegal wars, but you keep bringing that up as though you feel as though you've caught me out with it, because you get to say labour. I'm not really a labour supporter, they're just realistically the most progressive political party with even the remotest chance of being elected and able to affect change.

I think you miss the point a bit though, our history of redrawing and carving up maps, colonisation, and empire are the real issues that led to the problems in the middle east, as is our overthrowing of governments and our historical support for one despot over another.