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Old 25-09-2020, 04:15 PM #26
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Apparently the suspect was known to Terror Police


It just gets better .....

Somebody high up needs to lose their job and then get someone in to shake up the procedures— a get tough kinda person .

Things are gonna get an awful lot worse from now on .. you can sense the ‘unrest’ ..

I’ve even seen a noticeable increase in the number of idiots going through red lights just recently..


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death penalty for this cop killer
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We don't have the death penalty Nicky
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He was being Searched
thats when he pulled out a Gun, Fast.

The Police Officer Killed was due for retirement
and he has family with kids.

Ref: Ch5HDnews Live
horrific.
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We don't have the death penalty Nicky
ah ok then, longest sentence then what your justice system can offer

such a disgusting murder, and reading how he was close to retirement makes it even more sad
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I can guarantee there wont be any looting in tooting, or rioting.

People will sleep like feck(happy birthday Naihm) alls happened
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...it’s really difficult to understand how the gun could have been overlooked somehow in searching him...but then he was still able to draw and shoot with his hands in handcuffs...it’s hard to try to imagine a whole situation with this...so very, very tragic, Matt Ratana’s family and loved ones facing their loss and grief in such a way......

...lots of questions and answers still to come but so much thought to his family...just tragic beyond words...

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...it’s really difficult to understand how the gun could have been overlooked somehow in searching him...but then he was still able to draw and shoot with his hands in handcuffs...it’s hard to try to imagine a whole situation with this...so very, very tragic, Matt Ratana’s family and loved ones facing their loss and grief in such a way......

...lots of questions and answers still to come but so much thought to his family...just tragic beyond words...


Especially given he was arrested for firearms offences and was being monitored by the terrorist guys


I was thinking that some heads should roll for this oversight but it could quite easily be down to him being searched by a couple of untrained or under-trained cops who will have to live with this forever

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i'm trying to understand how someone who is handcuffed with their hands behind their back, is capable of then using a concealed gun to shoot an officer and then himself. It doesn't seem particularly feasible with multiple officers around him
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i'm trying to understand how someone who is handcuffed with their hands behind their back, is capable of then using a concealed gun to shoot an officer and then himself. It doesn't seem particularly feasible with multiple officers around him
I can see it if his hands were loosely cuffed in front and the gun was down his pants but how could he turn it on himself There will be video footage which will be released in time I guess.
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You can be hand cuffed from the front and behind it depends on how someone was arrested
If it was by force it will be from behind but if they don’t put up a struggle it will be by the front.

I’ve been arrested without having hand cuffs put on.
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i'm trying to understand how someone who is handcuffed with their hands behind their back, is capable of then using a concealed gun to shoot an officer and then himself. It doesn't seem particularly feasible with multiple officers around him
My cousin and I used to play Cops and Robbers all the time, with practice one can easily crouch down and "step" through cuffed hands so they're at the front.
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You can be hand cuffed from the front and behind it depends on how someone was arrested
If it was by force it will be from behind but if they don’t put up a struggle it will be by the front.

I’ve been arrested without having hand cuffs put on.
the news report said he was cuffed with his hands behind his back
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the news report said he was cuffed with his hands behind his back
Sorry didn’t read the report, I can’t see him being in hand cuffs to shoot the sergeant because you have at least one officer standing beside you at the booking in desk.
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I can see it if his hands were loosely cuffed in front and the gun was down his pants but how could he turn it on himself There will be video footage which will be released in time I guess.

Yes they need to do that.
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People will sleep like feck(happy birthday Naihm) alls happened
Quite ,Parmy, there will be nothing,just questions asked about the police force.
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Ugh. .. the mails 'questions' the police must answer.

Like it's a given there have been failings... :/ They were following procedures like every station every day, so sick of the sanctimonious posturing following something like this. No support, just finger pointing. Pffft.
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