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Originally Posted by Oliver_W
Their sex is male, and always will be. That can't be changed. If your feminism includes male people, that's fine, but not all forms of it do 
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...honestly, Oliver...I don’t know what to say to you ...so forgive me, I’m going to say very little and not continue with any possible conversation that could have been had...the born gender is not what trans is...otherwise trans wouldn’t exist and any thoughts or views on it wouldn’t exist either...Harry Potter style, magic-ed away...but so far as the gender of males is concerned as well in the way you’re also referencing it...?...of course, feminism includes males because it supports equality of genders which I would hope that, that is something that male gendered people, strive for as well...I really would hope that, Oliver...I’ll leave it at that...