[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Yes very likely Mock.
Out of selfishness and possible heartlessness as sadly that's where it seems, particular parts of England have moved to have as their decisions with voting.

However, more people now again are losing their lives unnecessarily, the SAGE advice of a circuit breaker, would have prevented some deaths of loved ones now, and those to come in weeks ahead, from not doing a circuit breaker..
A circuit breaker would have reduced the likely hospital admissions too.
Across the Country.

Now to some in the Country, deaths of others loved ones are irrelevant and since they're elderly in the main, would have been likely to lose their lives anyway.
So there's no point in trying to reason with that fixed mindset.

These new unnecessary deaths come on top of the deaths previously brought about by this government's scandalous handling of PPE, testing and the Care homes disgrace.

Yet as you say, this deceitful dangerous PM will still get votes.
Even moreso now, with his dictatorial stance now.
I'm surprised he hasn't found a way to remove parliamentary authority and elections altogether.

Of course he has crushingly, 4 years left still.
Although I agree with Ammi, he may want out.
He has had his ambition of becoming PM and won an election.

The next one will be harder to win as he did in December 2019.
He won't want to be seen as on the way out..
He may well want out.
I wish he did, he's the worst PM in my view, we've ever had.
He's not up to the challenge and job at all.
Plus his hard-line, uncompromising and his lip service empathy is nauseating.

This offer was not stated as being still there, when he spoke yesterday.
Why did HE not say it was when asked???
Andy Burnham, who I'd believe any day of the week over this disgracefully deceitful PM.
Wants the offer in writing WITH ALL it's conditions detailed too.

So why won't the government do that???

This area of Greater Manchester is a mass of 2.8 million individuals, many of whom are people whose lives and livelihoods will be hit badly and cruelly.

This PM has at present lost the trust and even goodwill of a great number who had gone with him before.
Now he's kicked them in the teeth with his procrastinating, his deceit, his confusion on rules, which even he seemed to have no clue on, yet he had to approve them.

Then his pulling the plug on the right support that should be in place.
Totally out of line with his original, '' no one must lose out for doing the right thing''.
That's exciting what he's creating in Greater Manchester, it's not just Manchester city itself.

Yet as you say, the votes will likely see him win again.
Although not in the way he did last year.
There's ever growing numbers of those who've lost loved ones unnecessarily.
He REFUSES to meet those grieving loved ones too.

An inquiry I hope will expose the false charts, false statistics, the deceit and lies and especially the unnecessary deaths he and this detestable government allowed to come into play.

Which is why, I think Ammi has a point, he may not want to be around for all that coming about when the s..t hits the fan of the things HE and his government could have avoided, could have protected and caused to happen as losses of lives too of Care staff, the elderly and those with long term health conditions..
What a record, yet he claims success in dealing with this.

More deceit, sickeningly lip service and sheer hard-line heartlessness.

Yet, yes, there's those who won't give a damn about the losses of others loved ones lives as long as they haven't been affected.
What a sad, in my view, Country particularly England has become from a proportion of its voters.

Jonathan Van Tam confirmed in the briefing yesterday that a circuit breaker makes no sense for people in areas of low infection, so for people living in parts of Norfolk and Cornwall, Pembrokshire and other areas like that, it makes no sense at all

He did say the offer was still there, he said they had to be fair to Liverpool and Lancashire and offer a similar amount of funding, it was superseded by the tweet showing Andy getting the news on someones phone, so that seems to have been what stuck rather than what was actually being said

ICU bed capacity in Manchester is at a dangerous level that is the takeway we should have from this, and yes that will unfortunatley translate to unnecessary deaths