[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are loads of signs everywhere telling people to social distance. Unfortunately, Andy Burnham can't physically force people to do it. It's a big mess but we have to get it under control and I am sure we will and I'm also sure it will spread elsewhere and we certainly won't be the last area locked down. Will be interesting to see how much money other, more southerly regions get to see if the North is held in leas regard.

The people of Manchester will get through this....we are in for a rough ride but we're made of tough stuff up here...so to Boris and the Tory party.

I did notice Andy Burnam was not wearing a mask on the news yesterday along with most of the people with him,or social distancing, he should probably show a good example even though I know its not compulsary,

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I did notice Andy Burnam was not wearing a mask on the news yesterday along with most of the people with him,or social distancing, he should probably show a good example even though I know its not compulsary,

You don't have to wear a mask outside.
Although I think people should.

Plus he was keeping his distance from others if you were to watch properly.

Even when shown the phone message.

Any comments on Johnson indoors when he didn't wear a mask.
When planing that wood with people close to him.
Or do the rules only apply to Labour and other party politicians

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are loads of signs everywhere telling people to social distance. Unfortunately, Andy Burnham can't physically force people to do it. It's a big mess but we have to get it under control and I am sure we will and I'm also sure it will spread elsewhere and we certainly won't be the last area locked down. Will be interesting to see how much money other, more southerly regions get to see if the North is held in leas regard.

The people of Manchester will get through this....we are in for a rough ride but we're made of tough stuff up here...so to Boris and the Tory party.

You will Annie , I've relatives who live in Manchester and many friends there too.
I love the place.
They are determined but most I've heard from are behind Burnham.
He moved massively.
He with the costings done by the areas, wanted 75 million.
He crashed that to the barest minimum of 65million to help the negotiations.

Although he knew, harder decisions would result.

Then this lot haggle for 5 million.

However it's Burnham's fault the group negotiation with the government failed.
He was wrong so presumably Con Graham Brady is wrong too.

However Burnham is to blame for people not doing as they are advised to, not told to.
Unbelievable.

I wonder if we'll hear those voices in the Con controlled Councils and Con Mayor's where the infections are rising in too.

I won't hold my breath.

Then they accuse Andy of playing politics.
Unbelievable.


It's incredible there's blame thrown to Burnham.
Not this government and its mixed messaging and hypocrisy of they can do what they like.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He certainly is and is playing the political card, we havent got a bottomless pot,we need to do our best and help as much as possible, as if Boris himself wants to piss off all the people who voted for him,it doesnt make sense,imo he is doing what he thinks will help in the long run,we cant just dish out money willy nilly because some want more,that's the problem ,people want more all the time, if i was him I would just tell people to get on with it and sod the outcome all the armchair critics have so much to say about how things should be done but no one has offered a solution as yet, yes,we all want more, but sometimes it's just not the best thing to do.hopefully it wont be long for Manchester,I do feel for them,my nephew lives there and his job has just gone,so I so sympathise but they were offered money.

so Ł100m spent on pointless brexit advertisement at the start of the year is okay? but money for people to keep their jobs is not? There certainly is a bottomless pot when money is being given out for pointless propaganda seeing as we didn't leave at the time proposed.

[Kizzy]

Annie from the brink of tier 3 in West Yorkshire I get the impression this is some sick social experiment. The north are being treated like lab rats, take a third of their income, family and social life and see what happens.
I've no doubt by Christmas the country will be in full lock down again as this silly tier system will be exposed for being the shambles it is.

[bitontheslide]

London will likely be next to get the tier 3 treatment in the not to distant future, and they will get the same proportionate deal as the north

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are loads of signs everywhere telling people to social distance. Unfortunately, Andy Burnham can't physically force people to do it. It's a big mess but we have to get it under control and I am sure we will and I'm also sure it will spread elsewhere and we certainly won't be the last area locked down. Will be interesting to see how much money other, more southerly regions get to see if the North is held in leas regard.

The people of Manchester will get through this....we are in for a rough ride but we're made of tough stuff up here...so to Boris and the Tory party.

Do you honestly think if say Devon goes into Tier 3 they will get more than 67% of their wages?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

London will likely be next to get the tier 3 treatment in the not to distant future, and they will get the same proportionate deal as the north

I don't think the situation is too bad here in London.
Hopefully it won't be necessary.
But if it happens I will still have to go to work.
Because I'm in the food industry.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

London will likely be next to get the tier 3 treatment in the not to distant future, and they will get the same proportionate deal as the north

Did the north get a proportionate deal..? Liverpool 30M Manchester 22M How I'd that proportionate?

I'll be interested to see what London get too.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Did the north get a proportionate deal..? Liverpool 30M Manchester 22M How I'd that proportionate?

I'll be interested to see what London get too.

Isn't everyone getting the same?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Did the north get a proportionate deal..? Liverpool 30M Manchester 22M How I'd that proportionate?

I'll be interested to see what London get too.

Sheffield have been given Ł41 million

[Vanessa]

The offer of 60 m for Manchester is still on the table.
I think they should take it.
Hopefully the lockdown won't be for long.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Do you honestly think if say Devon goes into Tier 3 they will get more than 67% of their wages?

No I'm sure the people won't get any more. How much the area is given is what I am interested in. Whatever happens, joe public will be the ones who suffer, not the politicians etc

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Do you honestly think if say Devon goes into Tier 3 they will get more than 67% of their wages?

She didn't mention wages... Devon is v small compared to Manchester the point is will the offers reflect the population size of the area or not?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Sheffield have been given Ł41 million

That seems generous, almost double that given to Manchester... they are just pulling figures from a hat now surely?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That seems generous, almost double that given to Manchester... they are just pulling figures from a hat now surely?

Two sets of figures Kizzy.
Sheffield were given 11 million, half of the 22 million Manchester will get, for track and trace etc.
Sheffield accepted 30 million whereas Manchester were offered 60 million for help with business etc.
The figures work out about the same from region to region as it’s worked out on how many people it covers.
The 67% of wages will be topped up to 80% through universal credit, so it will go to the person direct rather than the company, I would think this will help to stop the fiddling that has gone on.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That seems generous, almost double that given to Manchester... they are just pulling figures from a hat now surely?

Yes.
Manchester was offered 82 million.
Double the amount, due to the size of area and people it covers.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The offer of 60 m for Manchester is still on the table.
I think they should take it.
Hopefully the lockdown won't be for long.

Yes take that high amount.


It's a 28 day review of Tier 3.

[arista]

Johnson said at PMQ's
Great Manchester will get the Ł60Million

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Johnson said at PMQ's
Great Manchester will get the Ł60Million

It's not enough... if cities with a population of under 1M are getting 30/40M how with a population of 2.7M do Manchester have to beg for 60M?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's not enough... if cities with a population of under 1M are getting 30/40M how with a population of 2.7M do Manchester have to beg for 60M?

Exactly Kizzy.

[parmnion]

Its ****ing plenty for a city that doesn't care.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Its ****ing plenty for a city that doesn't care.

2.7 people don't care about coronavirus.. you do realise how silly that sounds don't you?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Its ****ing plenty for a city that doesn't care.

It's one of the UK's biggest cities so if it suffers and there are mass job losses, the whole UK suffers economically. You don't get to pick'n'choose areas to help and areas not to help.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's one of the UK's biggest cities so if it suffers and there are mass job losses, the whole UK suffers economically. You don't get to pick'n'choose areas to help and areas not to help.

No! That's not the right wing way! You only help those that are on your side and **** everyone else.