[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That's why it stood out to me, because she wanted to wait.

I need to find this out now or it will bug me.

I'm trying to find out now too. The most i can find is someone saying she had a baby boy picture frame in her office at home with the ultra sound picture in it, but that's just a person's comment on a youtube video

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm trying to find out now too. The most i can find is someone saying she had a baby boy picture frame in her office at home with the ultra sound picture in it, but that's just a person's comment on a youtube video

It must be from Nicoles police interviews so I'll have a look.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It must be from Nicoles police interviews so I'll have a look.

You're right actually, this was sent a week before she was murdered :

[Niamh.]

Although, just because she didn't know for sure if the baby was a boy or girl doesn't mean that my theory couldn't be true either :

Watts has also confessed that he slipped oxycodone to Shanann several weeks before the murders, hoping to cause her to miscarry.
I thought it would be easier to be with Nichol if Shanann wasn’t pregnant.
According to Cheryln Cadle, Watts told her that his girlfriend wanted to be the one to give him a son.
https://medium.com/honestly-yours/wh...s-2a90a9a88745

[The Slim Reaper]

Good find. I thought I'd seen that was the case, but it's 2 years ago now. She was 15 weeks pregnant when they were murdered in August, and they were in SC in June I think, so they wouldn't have been able to tell the sex at 7 weeks.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Although, just because she didn't know for sure if the baby was a boy or girl doesn't mean that my theory couldn't be true either :

Watts has also confessed that he slipped oxycodone to Shanann several weeks before the murders, hoping to cause her to miscarry.
I thought it would be easier to be with Nichol if Shanann wasn’t pregnant.
According to Cheryln Cadle, Watts told her that his girlfriend wanted to be the one to give him a son.
https://medium.com/honestly-yours/wh...s-2a90a9a88745

I think that Cheryin - if it's the author I'm thinking of, has been largely discredited, and found to be making loads of stuff up - although again, I may be misremembering that too.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I think that Cheryin - if it's the author I'm thinking of, has been largely discredited, and found to be making loads of stuff up - although again, I may be misremembering that too.

I didn't hear anything like that anytime I've seen her book referenced, they were based on his letters to her

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I didn't hear anything like that anytime I've seen her book referenced, they were based on his letters to her

Her book has been pulled from loads of places like Amazon, because she was found plagiarizing other peoples work for her books.

Youtube video

[Niamh.]

The letters from Chris are genuine though which is where that quote is from

[The Slim Reaper]

The interview I posted is about the letters book (I think).

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The interview I posted is about the letters book (I think).

I can't watch it now (I'm at work) but I read that the letters were genuine but that there wasn't very many of them in the book

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I can't watch it now (I'm at work) but I read that the letters were genuine but that there wasn't very many of them

Not sure, but the women being interviewed is the one who had her work plagiarised for Letters to Christopher. Maybe the letters are genuine, and she's just embellished the parts that are filler.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not sure, but the women being interviewed is the one who had her work plagiarised for Letters to Christopher. Maybe the letters are, and she's just embellished the parts that are filler.

I just listened to the first 2 minutes and she's saying that she took her voice and thoughts and acted if they were her own so i would think she's referring to her own commentary in the book rather than the letters. The letters are hand written and you can view them online so I would presume that those parts are genuine

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I would like to think I'd definitely not delete stuff that could help Police convict him tbh

Regarding her going to Police before they knew about her, I've read reports that they did know about her before she came forward. Also, they were in a new relationship but she had googled both Chris and Shan'ann up to a year before the relationship started and before Chris even knew her which is really really odd :

The discovery documents examined by CrimeOnline included a “Phone Data Review,” which showed the internet search history of principals in the case, including Kessinger. The recovered phone data, which included some entries that had been deleted from her search history, appear to show that Kessinger did online searches for the names Shanann Watts and Chris Watts as far back as 2017, and on multiple occasions before both she and Chris Watts said their affair began. A records supervisor initially told CrimeOnline that an entry for a Google search of Shanann Watts in September 2017 was a “typo” in the report. But Weld County District Attorney Michael Rourke later said, in a December 2018 interview with CrimeOnline, that the items in the report accurately reflected what was found in the data review.
https://www.crimeonline.com/2020/10/...an-she-let-on/

The police have come out and said Nicole searching that far back was a typo. They haven't offered any further corrections on what was wrong, or what they meant to say, just that it's wrong.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The police have come out and said Nicole searching that far back was a typo. They haven't offered any further corrections on what was wrong, or what they meant to say, just that it's wrong.

It was said it was a typo and then it was said that it wasn't a typo and that the dates were correct. I need to find that hang on

[Niamh.]

“It’s not a typographical error in the report. [The detectives] are reporting what was contained in the data from her phone. I don’t know the answer to the question of why or how those dates ended up in her phone.”

https://www.crimeonline.com/2020/10/...0Rourke%20said.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It was said it was a typo and then it was said that it wasn't a typo and that the dates were correct. I need to find that hang on

Originally Posted by Niamh.

“It’s not a typographical error in the report. [The detectives] are reporting what was contained in the data from her phone. I don’t know the answer to the question of why or how those dates ended up in her phone.”

https://www.crimeonline.com/2020/10/...0Rourke%20said.

Ahh ok, that makes sense then.

[Niamh.]

Have you heard that phone conversation where Chris is saying he's found god and that god has a plan for him outside of prison? Apparently he's currently looking for some loophole to get himself out.............don't ask me how he thinks that's even remotely possible considering he plead guilty and confessed on numerous occasions

[Niamh.]

This is an interesting video into the psychology if Chris Watts, if anyone is interested

Youtube video

[Ammi]

...it was an interesting listen and also what a ‘rarity’ he is in that she’d only met one ‘Chris’ in her entire career...no one could ever know when/if they were in the presence of a Chris...there would be no signs as such, which is a terrifying thought...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Have you heard that phone conversation where Chris is saying he's found god and that god has a plan for him outside of prison? Apparently he's currently looking for some loophole to get himself out.............don't ask me how he thinks that's even remotely possible considering he plead guilty and confessed on numerous occasions

Yeah. I think that's the realisation hitting him that he's stuck behind bars for another 40-60 years. His emotions have probably been in a mess, and he's been grieving himself; not for the family he murdered, but his lost relationship with nicky. As everything has calmed down, reality has deservedly kicked him in the balls, so it's probably a coping mechanism; believing that he can get out and gives him something to aim for.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Yeah. I think that's the realisation hitting him that he's stuck behind bars for another 40-60 years. His emotions have probably been in a mess, and he's been grieving himself; not for the family he murdered, but his lost relationship with nicky. As everything has calmed down, reality has deservedly kicked him in the balls, so it's probably a coping mechanism; believing that he can get out and gives him something to aim for.

Not even the relationship with Nikki I think but his lost relationship with freedom