[Beso]

What happened his old one?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Your local supermarkets might have decided to be dumb off their own back, but that's doesn't mean there was any national mandate for supermarkets to stop selling essentials... Just a little cluster of overzealous local managers in your area (probably taking cues from each other).

I can assure you that you could still buy socks at 99% of UK supermarkets back in April.

Again, I didn't say it was a nationwide initiative. There were many supermarkets however not just in Leeds that were confused as to the rules and also police at that time. Leading to closures of sections of supermarkets, until the government stepped in to clarify all items could be sold.

That clarification hasn't happened here, so it follows that the rules have changed or are different in Wales. The circuit breaker is only for a few days, I'm sure people have spare socks till its over.

[bots]

they are already talking about scheduling another circuit breaker in Wales, lets see how long the public keep supporting it

[Kizzy]

How about instead of mocking the attempts of others to control the virus we examine our own piss poor effort?

[Cherie]

It’s not mocking efforts, its pointing out that the level of tolerance is shrinking particularly among those who are sticking to the rules, and still having to lockdown, so this extra draconian measure is chipping away at peoples already stretched goodwill to do the right thing

[bots]

We have a couple of months to go yet till Christmas with short days and people getting progressively more miserable. I think there will be a major push back against restrictions by the time we get to Christmas

[Kizzy]

Seems like it's the English bleating about this and the Welsh just getting on with it. It's 2 weeks... 14 days, lets keep some perspective.

[Cherie]

Tesco's have had to apologise for telling a woman that she could not purchase sanitary products during the fire break Toothpaste was also cordoned off lol

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...mpons-19166146

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Seems like it's the English bleating about this and the Welsh just getting on with it. It's 2 weeks... 14 days, lets keep some perspective.

oh right so no one in Wales signed this, that makes perfect sense

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsm...an/ar-BB1amoM5

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It’s not mocking efforts, its pointing out that the level of tolerance is shrinking particularly among those who are sticking to the rules, and still having to lockdown, so this extra draconian measure is chipping away at peoples already stretched goodwill to do the right thing

This.

Besides how is buying clothes not essential?

The Government is a constant walking, talking disaster.

[Kizzy]

It was a mistake, and has been clarified.

[bots]

i get that it's a short period of time, but even the shops that have had to close understand that people will just buy what they need online. So the local councils need to ask themselves if they want the money that people would have spent in local shops going to local residents or an international company like Amazon

[thesheriff443]

Tesco in Wales not selling sanatary products as they are not essential.

[arista]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Tesco in Wales not selling sanitary products as they are not essential.

Fury as Tesco in Wales bans sale of tampons

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...end-chaos.html

[arista]

[thesheriff443]

Absolutely ridiculous

[The Slim Reaper]

Tesco have deleted that tweet, because it's not true.

[Liam-]

Our government have told supermarkets to use their discretion, they haven’t been told what to sell or not

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i get that it's a short period of time, but even the shops that have had to close understand that people will just buy what they need online. So the local councils need to ask themselves if they want the money that people would have spent in local shops going to local residents or an international company like Amazon

There is business support for those affected, this is a means to an end. Personally I think it's very fair that if the non essential shops have to close then the supermarkets (themselves faceless corporations) don't cash in.
Maybe these things can still be purchased with your online food shop or click and collect though if desperate . I'm aware not everyone has that facility however if they don't they won't be ordering from amazon either will they?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It was a mistake, and has been clarified.

Originally Posted by Liam-

Our government have told supermarkets to use their discretion, they haven’t been told what to sell or not

Well that's the point isn't it, when you hand out vague-as-**** "guidelines" that are clear as mud and expect a Supermarket manager whose qualifications amount to 3 GCSE's and 20 years in retail to make the final judgement call, mistakes are going to be made.

Clear guidance on what is or isn't to be sold, or allow the full product range of stores that are open. It should be relatively simple but it seems everyone wants to pass the buck when it comes to responsibility.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well that's the point isn't it, when you hand out vague-as-**** "guidelines" that are clear as mud and expect a Supermarket manager whose qualifications amount to 3 GCSE's and 20 years in retail to make the final judgement call, mistakes are going to be made.

Clear guidance on what is or isn't to be sold, or allow the full product range of stores that are open. It should be relatively simple but it seems everyone wants to pass the buck when it comes to responsibility.

Here is an apology from tesco

Tesco spokesperson told Manchester Evening News: "Of course sanitary products are essential items and are available to customers in all of our stores, including those in Wales. The reply to this customer was sent by mistake and we’re very sorry for any confusion caused.”

I don't know how qualifications are relevant here, and if you have 20yrs experience in retail you'd think it would be in your nature to want to sell more, not less.

It was a mistake, they are made expecially during unforseen pandemics. I think we're being whipped up onto a frenzy about this Welsh lock down so there isn't a call for one here.
The knee jerk reaction is going to be no, regardless of whether or not it's needed.

[bots]

the welsh government have now told supermarkets to use their discretion .... carefully avoiding any responsibility

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the welsh government have now told supermarkets to use their discretion .... carefully avoiding any responsibility

looks like some don't think brushing your teeth is a twice daily ocurrence so this should be fun

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

looks like some don't think brushing your teeth is a twice daily ocurrence so this should be fun

Eh. where did toothpaste come into this?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Here is an apology from tesco

Tesco spokesperson told Manchester Evening News: "Of course sanitary products are essential items and are available to customers in all of our stores, including those in Wales. The reply to this customer was sent by mistake and we’re very sorry for any confusion caused.”

I don't know how qualifications are relevant here, and if you have 20yrs experience in retail you'd think it would be in your nature to want to sell more, not less.

It was a mistake, they are made expecially during unforseen pandemics. I think we're being whipped up onto a frenzy about this Welsh lock down so there isn't a call for one here.
The knee jerk reaction is going to be no, regardless of whether or not it's needed.

Yes it was a mistake, as I said with mistakes being inevitable when everyone is passing the buck and refusing to give clear, simple guidance and leaving the decision down to people who are not qualified to make such decisions, and based on absolutely nothing other than gut feeling. There is no science at all behind this.

And qualifications of course are absolutely relevant here. A supermarket management team, you may expect, will have vast experience in staff management, stock ordering, budgeting, security concerns, cleanliness and hygiene, store layouts... all sorts of things that are relevant to their job.

They have no relevant knowledge or experience whatsoever in making executive decisions about which products should or shouldn't be considered essential purchases. You might as well ask the next person you pass in the street. The scope for subjectivity is so massive that it just becomes ridiculous, and that is evident from the number of "mistakes" that have been made already.

Again; there needs to be clear, simple, cohesive guidance on which aisles should be closed coming from the people calling for closures (in this case, the Welsh government) OR shops should simply continue to sell their whole range whilst encouraging customers not to "window shop".