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29-10-2020, 09:04 AM | #1 | |||
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Labour Party was responsible for anti-Semitic discrimination and broke equality laws, human rights watchdog rules
Breaking news https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425 |
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29-10-2020, 10:03 AM | #2 | |||
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Yes some now
want Corbyn removed from the Party |
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29-10-2020, 10:15 AM | #3 | |||
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The Labour Leader is Live
All media. ITV1 News asked should the Former Leader still be in the party? Last edited by arista; 29-10-2020 at 10:27 AM. |
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29-10-2020, 10:29 AM | #4 | |||
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29-10-2020, 10:32 AM | #5 | |||
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You know my methods
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Note his mask is not on properly so he may have infected that lady with him.
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29-10-2020, 10:37 AM | #6 | |||
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29-10-2020, 10:38 AM | #7 | ||
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Remembering Kerry
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I have always detested antisemitism.
I also did indicate I felt it wasn't riddled with it. However, This report actually is worse than even I though it would be. Obviously I'm looking at these findings which highlight shocking and shameful instances which have badly affected past and present Labour MPs, members and voters too. It is clearly not overexaggerated as many had claimed. This is a disgraceful account of anti-Semitic instances in the Party. Which the leadership and also that we as members failed to address. It was once said atrociously to me, on here, my saying I had Jewish friends was like a racist saying he had black friends. Not that anyone said anything about that being too personal to me. I HAVE had Jewish friends from my childhood. I would never support anti-Semitism in any shape or form. I will wait to see what Starmer will be saying ongoing from this. I do get the feeling, that Jewish leaders and communities feel Starmer has started well on this issue. However starting well, is not enough. Rapid action to clear out any who are anti-Semitic and all past dismissed cases looked at again too. I believe Starmer has said this is a day of shame for Labour. He HAS to ensure ALL who presided over this, who allowed it to continue, and particularly who now still claim over-exaggeration are held to account for where they have brought the Party to today. No excuses from me, I've never ever set out to make any. These findings are worse than I believed they would be. Now, I need to personally consider my own thinking and relation to the Party. A lot now depends on really how Starmer handles this now, how he addresses the intense hurt to long held Jewish members and MPs too. More though, how he now sets about dealing with those who presided over this hateful discrimination. There can be no place in Labour,nor should there be for anyone, no matter their position, past and present, who will still set out to diminish or dismiss these findings. Starmer was in the Shadow Cabinet, he has to now completely disinfect himself from this hurtful tragic hurt of discrimination against Jewish MPs and members. Also to show relentless pursuit of any holding any antisemitic views in Labour. He needs to do that, for himself, the MPs now, the Party and its members, plus past MPs driven out, also Jewish voters whether Labour ones or not. I am really saddened but even moreso annoyed. The past leader assured all was being done, while it was allowed to get stronger. That's shocking. Absolutely shocking to have dismissed those genuinely concerned about anti-Semitism. Absolutely shocking. This is bad. Last edited by joeysteele; 29-10-2020 at 10:55 AM. |
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29-10-2020, 10:40 AM | #8 | |||
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I wonder if that con mp who was called scum by the labour mp was Jewish?
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29-10-2020, 10:46 AM | #9 | |||
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I need to read the whole thing before I give any full comments on the report. However, It was always accepted that anti semitism exists in labour, just like society as a whole. My only issue was that it was being weaponised against the man who was an anti racist campaigner all his life, and who was counter protesting neo-nazi's in Jewish London boroughs before most of us were born.
All of this in service of a conservative leader that wrote a book full of anti semitic tropes and stereotypes, caused a 375% spike in hate crimes against Muslims with Islamophobic comments, made racist comments against black people, and homophobic comments against gay people.
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29-10-2020, 10:58 AM | #10 | |||
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29-10-2020, 11:01 AM | #11 | |||
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The Report is 3 Breaches Political Interference in the Labour Party |
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29-10-2020, 11:02 AM | #12 | |||
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29-10-2020, 11:02 AM | #13 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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Well that's cleared it all up. Thanks.
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29-10-2020, 11:05 AM | #14 | |||
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29-10-2020, 11:05 AM | #15 | |||
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29-10-2020, 11:08 AM | #16 | |||
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You know my methods
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Its why the GBP did not vote for him
They can tell a wrong un and they did |
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29-10-2020, 11:17 AM | #17 | |||
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The EHRC report found the Labour Party responsible for three breaches of the Equality Act, namely:
Political interference in anti-Semitism complaints Failure to provide adequate training to those handling anti-Semitism complaints Harassment In a statement, it said: "The equality body's analysis points to a culture within the party which, at best, did not do enough to prevent anti-Semitism and, at worst, could be seen to accept it." The investigation found evidence of 23 instances of "inappropriate involvement" by Mr Corbyn's office, included staff influencing decisions on suspensions or whether to investigate a claim. Some decisions, said the watchdog, were made because of "likely press interest rather than any formal criteria", and the party "adopted a practice of political interference". The EHRC said the party's complaints process was inconsistent and lacking in transparency", with the email inbox "largely left unmonitored for a number of years" and "no action taken on the majority of complaints forwarded to it". The watchdog said there had been recent improvements to the procedures, but the system was still "under-resourced and those responsible for it are not trained to the necessary standard". The report also said the party was responsible for two cases of unlawful harassment, where anti-Semitic tropes were used and complaints were branded fake or smears. It named former Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, and a local councillor, Pam Bromley, but said these were "only the tip of the iceberg", and a further 18 borderline cases were found. Mr Livingstone later released a statement, he was "deeply hurt" by the accusations and "fully rejects" them, calling himself a "life-long anti-racist". Last edited by bitontheslide; 29-10-2020 at 11:18 AM. |
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29-10-2020, 11:32 AM | #18 | |||
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https://www.counterfire.org/articles...aged-the-party https://novaramedia.com/2020/04/12/i...igned-to-lose/
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29-10-2020, 11:39 AM | #19 | |||
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Back in Sept 2019 Luciana Berger MP ended up joining the LibDems. (But voted out) After joining the Failed/Pathetic Indie Party Group (washed away at the General Election) Last edited by arista; 29-10-2020 at 11:43 AM. |
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29-10-2020, 11:57 AM | #20 | |||
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What I will say, is that Corbyn should have just said he accepted the findings. There are days ahead to put individual points across, but today shouldn't have been one of them as the former leader.
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29-10-2020, 12:12 PM | #21 | |||
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Corbyn on SkyNewsHD
is staying put. He said he brought in the measures that are helping this enquiry. His Whip has been removed Now Suspended from Labour Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour party https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-co...party-12117833 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425 Last edited by arista; 29-10-2020 at 12:14 PM. |
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29-10-2020, 12:15 PM | #22 | |||
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Whens spitting image on next?
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29-10-2020, 12:15 PM | #23 | |||
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And there goes starmers chance of ever being PM, unfortunately.
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29-10-2020, 12:15 PM | #24 | |||
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29-10-2020, 12:16 PM | #25 | |||
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Corbyn has been suspended from the labour party and whip removed
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