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Default Alison Hammond is pre-Diabetic

She announced on this Morning that she is pre diabetic and will develop type 2 diabetes if she doesn't change her eating style, she wants people to help her out with it.

I'm glad she is putting it In the spotlight because people don't really talk about being Pre-Diabetic and it will hopefully help alot of people who have a diet based on a lot of sugar and other unhealthy stuff.
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Fair play for talking about it, but it can't really have come as a shock to her.
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Fair play for talking about it, but it can't really have come as a shock to her.
I guess for alot of people you don't think about Diabetes when stuff your face with sweet treats until you get a health scare, I know a lot of people think its because if her weight but anyway can develop it no matter their weight
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Probably too many sweets?
She can turn this around by eating healthier.
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Fair play for talking about it, but it can't really have come as a shock to her.


Saucer of milk?
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'tis not the sweeties with type 2 (although of course tonnes of sugar isn't good) - it's the empty carbs that will **** with your blood sugar. More protein, more fat, less stuffing your belly with bulk bread/pasta/potatoes and you can still enjoy 2 sugars in your coffee.

I like to harp on about this occasionally .

I'm not a low-carb advocate but make sure your carbs are good ones - fruit, green veg, etc.

Honestly the best diet advice I can give and you don't need a guide or a book for it. "Cut the bulky crappy starchy carbs, eat more fresh veg instead". It's that simple.

Also helps with bloat and achy joints (the latter was the main reason I looked into it, my joints are genetically - to be blunt - pish).
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Fair play for talking about it, but it can't really have come as a shock to her.
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Saucer of milk?
I honestly wasn't coming from a mock her weight pov. It's 2020, everyone has the internet so there aren't really any excuses for not being aware of how her weight/size would affect the rest of her life, either directly, or through health associated issues.
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...the ‘pre’ is exactly that...preventable...and hopefully won’t develop if she follows a healthy eating diet and physical exercise routine that I presume she’s been given and will be monitored...I wish her well in a hopefully preventable lifestyle.....
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Fair play for talking about it, but it can't really have come as a shock to her.


Or anyone else either ...


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'tis not the sweeties with type 2 (although of course tonnes of sugar isn't good) - it's the empty carbs that will **** with your blood sugar. More protein, more fat, less stuffing your belly with bulk bread/pasta/potatoes and you can still enjoy 2 sugars in your coffee.

I like to harp on about this occasionally .

I'm not a low-carb advocate but make sure your carbs are good ones - fruit, green veg, etc.

Honestly the best diet advice I can give and you don't need a guide or a book for it. "Cut the bulky crappy starchy carbs, eat more fresh veg instead". It's that simple.

Also helps with bloat and achy joints (the latter was the main reason I looked into it, my joints are genetically - to be blunt - pish).


There’s the problem .. excluding all wheat based products and potatoes ??

I love chip butties !!


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Probably too many sweets?
She can turn this around by eating healthier.
She does love her food, I hope she tries to change her diet she's such a lovely fun person . And her health is important.
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There’s the problem .. excluding all wheat based products and potatoes ??

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Have your chip butty... it's the sugar.

I have been pre diabetic before cut sugar and reversed it.
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Have your chip butty... it's the sugar.

I have been pre diabetic before cut sugar and reversed it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dia...diabetes%3famp
Sugar , salt and alcohol definitely play a big part in it , so cutting down on those will help .
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Sugar , salt and alcohol definitely play a big part in it , so cutting down on those will help .
Not sure about salt but deffo alcohol again there is a lot of sugar in that.
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My Dad is in his 70s and at a health check last year they told him he was pre-diabetic. They sent him on a 10 week course where they told them pretty much what TS said above.....he switched up his diet, upped his daily exercise to help manage his weight and by the end of the course his blood was back in the normal level range.....and he had lost over a stone in weight. If he can do it at his age, Alison hopefully will.
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Time to cut the carbs.
Give those pancreas a break.
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Time to cut the carbs.

Give those pancreas a break.


My pancreas hopefully gets a break everyday given I do intermittent fasting every day .. so it gets at least a 16 hour rest every 24 hours


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Have your chip butty... it's the sugar.

I have been pre diabetic before cut sugar and reversed it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dia...diabetes%3famp
Not Kizzy advising pre-diabetic people to eat chip butties. Does the reign of terror know no end?

In all seriousness; the best option would be to cut out as much of both as possible, obviously you can't cut out bulky carbs and sit stuffing your face with chocolate and haribo, but you also can't expect to cut just sugar and continue eating as much bread and pasta as you like. The problem is how the body processes carbohydrates and sugar is just a high-energy carbohydrate. To get right into it, the reason I think you need to be "stricter" on basic carbs than on sugar is because it's easy to remember that sugar should just be a treat; so sugar in your morning coffee is fine, but not sugar in 4+ coffees throughout the day. A sugary snack with a movie is fine, but not every day of the week.

Bulk carbs on the other hand are a normalised part of our diet and people will happily have porridge for breakfast, a sandwich for lunch and pasta for dinner and think nothing of it or even that they've made healthy choices. But as soon as you have that carby breakfast your body is going to chase carbs all day - and that means blood sugar fluctuations which is exactly what you don't want.

But I also don't think "strict" faddy diets work because they aren't sustainable... so I wouldn't advocate for trying to "completely cut carbs" or nonsense like that. I think a good example would be... bacon and eggs (no carbs) is a better breakfast than a bacon sandwich (carbs) - BUT don't worry too much about throwing in the occasional sausage that has wheat in it.

Or... let's say you're getting an Indian as a treat... probably skip the garlic nan - but don't worry too much about the batter on the pakora. etc.
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Not Kizzy advising pre-diabetic people to eat chip butties. Does the reign of terror know no end?

In all seriousness; the best option would be to cut out as much of both as possible, obviously you can't cut out bulky carbs and sit stuffing your face with chocolate and haribo, but you also can't expect to cut just sugar and continue eating as much bread and pasta as you like. The problem is how the body processes carbohydrates and sugar is just a high-energy carbohydrate. To get right into it, the reason I think you need to be "stricter" on basic carbs than on sugar is because it's easy to remember that sugar should just be a treat; so sugar in your morning coffee is fine, but not sugar in 4+ coffees throughout the day. A sugary snack with a movie is fine, but not every day of the week.

Bulk carbs on the other hand are a normalised part of our diet and people will happily have porridge for breakfast, a sandwich for lunch and pasta for dinner and think nothing of it or even that they've made healthy choices. But as soon as you have that carby breakfast your body is going to chase carbs all day - and that means blood sugar fluctuations which is exactly what you don't want.

But I also don't think "strict" faddy diets work because they aren't sustainable... so I wouldn't advocate for trying to "completely cut carbs" or nonsense like that. I think a good example would be... bacon and eggs (no carbs) is a better breakfast than a bacon sandwich (carbs) - BUT don't worry too much about throwing in the occasional sausage that has wheat in it.

Or... let's say you're getting an Indian as a treat... probably skip the garlic nan - but don't worry too much about the batter on the pakora. etc.
Did you see the link?... and my personal experience.

If all you are going to do is mock then take your own advice and don't quote me.
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Not Kizzy advising pre-diabetic people to eat chip butties. Does the reign of terror know no end?

In all seriousness; the best option would be to cut out as much of both as possible, obviously you can't cut out bulky carbs and sit stuffing your face with chocolate and haribo, but you also can't expect to cut just sugar and continue eating as much bread and pasta as you like. The problem is how the body processes carbohydrates and sugar is just a high-energy carbohydrate. To get right into it, the reason I think you need to be "stricter" on basic carbs than on sugar is because it's easy to remember that sugar should just be a treat; so sugar in your morning coffee is fine, but not sugar in 4+ coffees throughout the day. A sugary snack with a movie is fine, but not every day of the week.

Bulk carbs on the other hand are a normalised part of our diet and people will happily have porridge for breakfast, a sandwich for lunch and pasta for dinner and think nothing of it or even that they've made healthy choices. But as soon as you have that carby breakfast your body is going to chase carbs all day - and that means blood sugar fluctuations which is exactly what you don't want.

But I also don't think "strict" faddy diets work because they aren't sustainable... so I wouldn't advocate for trying to "completely cut carbs" or nonsense like that. I think a good example would be... bacon and eggs (no carbs) is a better breakfast than a bacon sandwich (carbs) - BUT don't worry too much about throwing in the occasional sausage that has wheat in it.

Or... let's say you're getting an Indian as a treat... probably skip the garlic nan - but don't worry too much about the batter on the pakora. etc.

sorry cant have bacon its full of salt and carciogenics

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my motto is you can literally eat anything if you do it in moderation, and take a reasonable about of exercise
True but I think that's where I find the caveat;

1) A lot of people struggle to eat bulky carbs in moderation and make portion sizes far too big... again that's why I think it's the "thing to watch" over sugar, fat, salt etc. simply because most people hit a natural limit on sugary/fatty/salty stuff but carbs are very easy to eat 2x, 5x, 10x too much of and still be peckish for more .

2) ... if you're diabetic the "you can eat anything in moderation" rule that applies for most people goes out the window, it just doesn't really apply and you'll probably end up in a bloodsugar-related coma or dead.
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Did you see the link?... and my personal experience.

If all you are going to do is mock then take your own advice and don't quote me.
I did read the link but you'll note it says;

"Instead of chocolate bars, sweets, cakes and biscuits, choose healthier snacks such as unsweetened yogurts, unsalted nuts, seeds, fruits and vegetables. For example, try natural yogurt mixed in with chopped fruit or a small handful of nuts."

...so your own link quite clearly suggests replacing sugar and empty white carbs with fats, proteins and healthy fruit & veg carbs which is what I said above .

I can't find the bit where it says "replace sugary snacks with chip butties" but to be fair I did only skim the article.
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I did read the link but you'll note it says;

"Instead of chocolate bars, sweets, cakes and biscuits, choose healthier snacks such as unsweetened yogurts, unsalted nuts, seeds, fruits and vegetables. For example, try natural yogurt mixed in with chopped fruit or a small handful of nuts."

...so your own link quite clearly suggests replacing sugar and empty white carbs with fats, proteins and healthy fruit & veg carbs which is what I said above .

I can't find the bit where it says "replace sugary snacks with chip butties" but to be fair I did only skim the article.
Yes snacks.. a chip butty isn't a snack, it's a lunch. Who said the bread had to be white?

No strangely the article didn't mention chip butties because it not weirdly obsessive about every carb, just cutting out the very obvious sugars in your diet would be enough to reverse pre diabetes.

'Tis not the sweeties' that's what you said, the article clearly states it very much is sweeties. My point is if you cut out the 2 sugars in your coffees and other sugary snacks the odd sarnie is irrelevant.
Nobody suggested living on chip butties :/
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