[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No-one's said such safeguards should be removed. But sacrificing sex-based safeguards for gender identity essentially removes safeguards for women.

If you consider transwomen are not women and you're basing that on the consideration that only biology determines a sex/gender.

But biology or the body you're born in or genitalia or physical characteristics are not the only components of defining sex/gender.

Look at how many countries that no longer require sex reassignment surgeries as a condition for a gender change on legal documents (out of those, some still require a person to be childless or unmarried; some require hormone therapy but not SRS).
Do you mean they're all wrong and put women at risk?
If I follow the logic to only consider biological characteristics, same transwomen who went through surgery must still be denied access to women's toilets?

I'm not trying to argue here, I just don't follow the logic because it's always the "transgender people have different biological characteristics" that is thrown at them as if they didn't know that already in an attempt to either not be accepting or not moving forward in the discussion, or both. Gender goes way beyond that.

For instance, The World Health Organization and other institutions issued a joint statement in 2014, noting that the requirement to undergo sterilization surgeries as a prerequisite to receiving gender-affirmative treatment and gender-marker changes "run counter to respect for bodily integrity, self-determination and human dignity, and can cause and perpetuate discrimination against transgender and intersex persons."

And so on the basis that transwomen are women and a vast majority of them is not meant to be harmful to say "natural born women" in same sex places, I'm pretty sure a common ground can be found and a war between womens rights and trans rights doesn't have to happen. Both have been allies for so long.

PS: I mention transwomen here because it seems to be a bigger issue than transmen whom are seen as less dangerous in the context of unisex toilets or same sex places for instance.