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09-02-2021, 10:42 AM | #26 | |||
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I've made my feelings clear in multiple posts I do think they are basically the same thing, and the hang-ups with people trying to say that bisexual people wouldn't be as open-minded, or are caught up with very concrete notions of what gender is, is hugely offensive to everyone who's ever identified as bi in the past.
The whole adventure in becoming more open-minded and laissez-faire when it comes to sexuality and gender is just fraught with tarnishing older labels. I really don't care if someone chooses to say they're pan instead of bi, I just make a mental note of "...okay so they're bi, then" lol.
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09-02-2021, 11:00 AM | #27 | |||
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09-02-2021, 11:11 AM | #28 | |||
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Gav actually said last night, I don't even have anything to look up online anymore
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09-02-2021, 11:19 AM | #29 | |||
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...many of my friends who are generally so balanced and calm and level etc...are just so filled with anxieties atm, sadly....and as parents/problem and worry helpers and solvers etc as well...it’s a time of feeling quite helpless in a way that’s so unfamiliar and which takes away so much self value, if that makes sense...so we start to get really inwards with our thinking processes, which doesn’t keep a healthy balance...
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09-02-2021, 11:56 AM | #30 | ||
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09-02-2021, 12:04 PM | #31 | |||
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...I was going to apologise, actually...(...not that I had misquoted because I didn’t and wasn’t quoting you...)...but for the condescending and patronising comment because I feel it was wrong and only feeding into and adding to not a good/healthy open debate....but I think I’ll just leave things as they are and absorb your judgement and opinion of me, very enlightening...and possibly true actually at some points, I think we’re all guilty of many things and don’t realise that we’re doing those things ourselves...in this case and on this day though, you’re wrong and I accept your apology and thank you for realising and making it...
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09-02-2021, 01:42 PM | #32 | |||
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Plus it's a personal thing . But I think people like Courtney Act/ Shane J are just gay despite giving themselves the label of "pansexual" . I noticed aswell some people seem to come out as bi first before it being clear they're gay . But bisexuality is still a thing , but I've noticed even when someone is openly bi people still see them as gay for some reason . I know some have a preference and might date mostly men and vice versa but they're still bi . And I think pan is still another term for bi ,but because bi purely meant 2 people wanted another term for dating trans people I guess . And whether you're attracted to only feminine men or masculine women it doesn't change the sexuality , because a masculine woman is still a woman and a feminine man is still a man etc. It's just a preference . Just like some straight men might only date tomboys but they're still straight . |
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09-02-2021, 02:48 PM | #33 | ||
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People can identify as whatever they want, but I've always considered pansexuality to essentially fall under the same umbrella as bisexuality. A lot of defining characteristics of pansexuality aren't really something that's exclusive to pansexuality. Plus there's the whole issue with the idea that bisexual, gay and straight people can only operate on a binary of attraction and gender, which is bull****.
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09-02-2021, 02:54 PM | #34 | ||
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As for trans people, anyone of any sex can be attracted to a trans person, the idea that only pansexual people can be attracted to trans people is just offensive on multiple levels. It suggests that other sexualities are less tolerant, but it also makes a point of pointing out trans people as an oddity, a commodity.
A straight woman can be attracted to, and sleep with, a trans man. A gay person can do the same with a trans man, bisexuals do not discount people because they are trans. this is because these people will consider a trans person as the gender they are, not who they were. |
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09-02-2021, 05:24 PM | #35 | |||
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I low-key find it weird that you can see how completely out of order it is for him to not let you identify as you wish, yet you regularly debate that others shouldn’t identify as they wish.
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09-02-2021, 05:53 PM | #36 | ||
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Trisexual?!
No issue with people identifying as they wish either really. Though I guess in a way, my 'pan is basically bi' view was kinda biting me on the arse so get THAT now..karma. People can identify as whatever they want. Its when..identities overtake..biological reality, that theres a problem for me really. And even then, only in certain circumstances. Thinking on it, I dont think it was the not letting me 'identify' as I wish either..more the lack of logic in the stuff he was saying. Am rather annoyed I did not just '**** off twat' him straight off though (funnily enough, was the first two replies in here that pulled me round on that..). Very annoying I automatically went on defence and explaining! Last edited by Vicky.; 09-02-2021 at 05:56 PM. |
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09-02-2021, 06:59 PM | #37 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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Isn't trisexual literally just a joke? Like, "I'd try anything sexual once, har har har!"
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