[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Cherie

My question is why would a trans man want to give birth? and wouldn't the hormones they are taking prevent them getting pregnant?

Well I’m not a trans man so you’d have to ask someone who is, also google has never failed me. All I know is that there is trans men giving birth and that’s enough for me to justify more gender butyrate language in the hospitals. I don’t see the need for knowing exactly why they want a child.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Well I’m not a trans man so you’d have to ask someone who is, also google has never failed me. All I know is that there is trans men giving birth and that’s enough for me to justify more gender butyrate language in the hospitals. I don’t see the need for knowing exactly why they want a child.

sounds a bit cake and eat it to me if I am honest, if you want to be male, and I honestly think if you are taking testosterone that would negate female hormones, but I am not up on science, also I asked you because you seemed so sure I thought you might know?

any comment on the breasts that the non binary person has attached to their body..

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Cherie

sounds a bit cake and eat it to me if I am honest, if you want to be male, and I honestly think if you are taking testosterone that would negate female hormones, but I am not up on science, also I asked you because you seemed so sure I thought you might know?

any comment on the breasts that the non binary person has attached to their body..

In my opinion trans men have as much right as anybody else to have children so I’ve never actually thought to question their motives. Also not everybody who is trans or non binary is gonna be on hormones so it might be that but i’m also no scientist so idk if you can still have children after hormones.

The breast thing has me as confused as everyone else coz I’ve honestly never heard of breasts being offensive. On the same hand I don’t understand how Human milk is anymore dehumanising than breast milk

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

sounds a bit cake and eat it to me if I am honest, if you want to be male, and I honestly think if you are taking testosterone that would negate female hormones, but I am not up on science, also I asked you because you seemed so sure I thought you might know?

any comment on the breasts that the non binary person has attached to their body..

Not all transmen are on hormones. Especially given..a lot of transmen these days tend to be very very young. A 16 year old child of a friend of mine came out as trans last year. They are not on hormones or anything, and are now pregnant. From the utterly ridiculous situation of listening to online groups and basically convincing themselves into believing that they are actually male, and they have no pregnancy risk, etc etc, sleeping with a 'non binary person' (who also, cannot get them pregnant, as not a man) and..funnily enough..as can happen when a male and female person shag, ending up pregnant. Like, its like something from some messed up comedy at times. This is part of why I am hugely against the denial of biology really. Seems to be creating some weird alternate reality where people are actually convinced that sex is not a real thing because they want to think that, and end up in situations that are..easily avoidable with some sense applied. Again, that^ seemed a rarity, usually confined to america tbh, but its everywhere now, with so so many young female people saying they are trans/non binary. No issue in itself really, but when they fall for the social media/media bull****? It becomes a bit of an issue. I do not think its 'kind' or 'nice' to be playing to that narrative.

Kids are..easily 'brainwashed'. I dont think the term fits 100%, but you can see where I am coming from. When many many older people tell young impressionable minds that they can identify their way out of biology, you get these kinds of results tbh. Its insanity.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Not all transmen are on hormones. Especially given..a lot of transmen these days tend to be very very young. A 16 year old child of a friend of mine came out as trans last year. They are not on hormones or anything, and are now pregnant. From the utterly ridiculous situation of listening to online groups and basically convincing themselves into believing that they are actually male, and they have no pregnancy risk, etc etc, sleeping with a 'non binary person' (who also, cannot get them pregnant, as not a man) and..funnily enough..as can happen when a male and female person shag, ending up pregnant. Like, its like something from some messed up comedy at times. This is part of why I am hugely against the denial of biology really. Seems to be creating some weird alternate reality where people are actually convinced that sex is not a real thing because they want to think that, and end up in situations that are..easily avoidable with some sense applied. Again, that^ seemed a rarity, usually confined to america tbh, but its everywhere now, with so so many young female people saying they are trans/non binary. No issue in itself really, but when they fall for the social media/media bull****? It becomes a bit of an issue. I do not think its 'kind' or 'nice' to be playing to that narrative.

Kids are..easily 'brainwashed'. I dont think the term fits 100%, but you can see where I am coming from. When many many older people tell young impressionable minds that they can identify their way out of biology, you get these kinds of results tbh. Its insanity.

Right got you Vicky, its not something I thought about in terms of very young people so yes of course they wont immediately be on hormones, so that make sense