[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

why do they need to attack the family, the narrative was that it was the press drove them away? now its the family feeding stories to the Press, they are beginning to look like trailer trash! Doing the rounds dishing the dirt, I think it will tarnish their 'brand' rather than enhance it

...we don’t know the complexities of families either and whether there was always a feeling of a failure to protect Meghan, the statement that was issued in the early days regarding racist comments and undertones etc and concern for just general unnecessarily negative articles/headlines/attention came from Harry himself I believe and not from the palace...why didn’t his family step in to protect Meghan as well may have been something that was part of any dynamics leading up to any decisions...anyway, we don’t know but ‘trailer trash’ has become very much a descriptive that has become representative of so much media, I feel...


"Harry's girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang scarred home of her mother revealed — so will he be dropping by for tea?"

"Now that's upwardly mobile! How in 150 years, Meghan Markle's family went from cotton slaves to royalty via freedom in the U.S. Civil War ... while her dad's ancestors included a maid at Windsor Castle"

“Yes, they’re joyfully in love. So why do I have a niggling worry about his engagement picture?”


Journalist Rachel Johnson wrote for The Mail on Sunday that Markle could help bring "rich and exotic DNA" to the royal family. Rachel, the sister of British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, goes on to describe Markle’s mother as “a dreadlocked African-American lady from the wrong side of the tracks."


The Sun ran with “Harry Girl’s on Pornhub” after a clip of her from the television show "Suits" appeared on the adult website. The tabloid later issued an apology.


But that did not stop The Sun from running pieces focusing on Markle’s “VERY un-royal family” and comparisons between Markle and Kate Middleton, Prince William’s wife which revolved around Markle’s background, race and past relationships.


“seventy years ago, Meghan Markle would have been the kind of woman the Prince would have had for a mistress, not a wife.”....and hasn’t it been reported that William himself asked why Harry had to marry that American girl, or something similar...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The timing is rather suspicious

Only to folks like you.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Youtube video

Thanks LT for Posting.


See Zizu
there is a reason
why it came Front Page,

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...we don’t know the complexities of families either and whether there was always a feeling of a failure to protect Meghan, the statement that was issued in the early days regarding racist comments and undertones etc and concern for just general unnecessarily negative articles/headlines/attention came from Harry himself I believe and not from the palace...why didn’t his family step in to protect Meghan as well may have been something that was part of any dynamics leading up to any decisions...anyway, we don’t know but ‘trailer trash’ has become very much a descriptive that has become representative of so much media, I feel...


"Harry's girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang scarred home of her mother revealed — so will he be dropping by for tea?"

"Now that's upwardly mobile! How in 150 years, Meghan Markle's family went from cotton slaves to royalty via freedom in the U.S. Civil War ... while her dad's ancestors included a maid at Windsor Castle"

“Yes, they’re joyfully in love. So why do I have a niggling worry about his engagement picture?”


Journalist Rachel Johnson wrote for The Mail on Sunday that Markle could help bring "rich and exotic DNA" to the royal family. Rachel, the sister of British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, goes on to describe Markle’s mother as “a dreadlocked African-American lady from the wrong side of the tracks."


The Sun ran with “Harry Girl’s on Pornhub” after a clip of her from the television show "Suits" appeared on the adult website. The tabloid later issued an apology.


But that did not stop The Sun from running pieces focusing on Markle’s “VERY un-royal family” and comparisons between Markle and Kate Middleton, Prince William’s wife which revolved around Markle’s background, race and past relationships.


“seventy years ago, Meghan Markle would have been the kind of woman the Prince would have had for a mistress, not a wife.”....and hasn’t it been reported that William himself asked why Harry had to marry that American girl, or something similar...

If they moved away last year and said we have personal issues, I might buy that, they blamed it all on the media, up to Harry on the bus with James, (from the clip that I saw), now that has changed and the tone has gone a bit more sour, is that because they weren't allowed to have a foot in and a foot out, I don't know..

anyhow I am sick of talking about them now so I am going to bow out of this for now

[Christmas Dynasnow]

[Parmy]

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That just shows though that the Palace did not follow through their Dignity in the Workplace policy. The original email in 2018 shows serious concerns and it should have been dealt with then, not some 3 years later, a year after meghan has quit and days before a potentially explosive interview. What are they worried she is going to say?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

I think the Palace did not fully investigate the Meghan bullying because they feared she would cry discrimination...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

Yes it’s quite ridiculous that Harry and Meg get all this hassle given what we’ve ‘heard’ ‘bout randyandy




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[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think the Palace did not fully investigate the Meghan bullying because they feared she would cry discrimination...

If they have clear policies in place for dealing with discrimination, harassment and bullying, like all workplaces are meant to , by law,there should have been no concerns in undertaking an investigation at the time. The fact that it was reported and not thoroughly investigated casts doubt on the robustness of their HR team in all honesty

[bots]

For someone that values her privacy so much, she sure spends a lot of time airing her grievances in public. It's hilarious really

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

I think that should be down to the Police, not the Palace. These allegations about Meghan are about a member of staff, the allegations about Andrew are not work related. The Queen sacked him as an employee and she maintained the integrity of the "business". Unless there have been reports of his proclivities towards a member of Palace staff, there is little more the Palace can do about him

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

For someone that values her privacy so much, she sure spends a lot of time airing her grievances in public. It's hilarious really

and 'building compassion around the world' that doesn't extend to the elderlies in her family obviously

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Cherie

and 'building compassion around the world' that doesn't extend to the elderlies in her family obviously

and womens rights...

until the Saudi prince gifts you some diamonds....

[jet]

I think this is at the heart of what went wrong...
From The Times:

The palace knew that when Harry married a woman who was biracial, American and divorced, they had to go out of their way to make sure the marriage was a success: if it was not, the royal household and their supposedly hidebound ways would be blamed. “Everyone knew that the institution would be judged by her happiness,” a source said. “The mistake they made was thinking she wanted to be happy. She wanted to be rejected because she was obsessed with that narrative from day one.”
More than one source has expressed their view about her wanting to be a victim. One claimed: “She wanted to be the victim because then she could convince Harry that it was an unbearable experience and they had no choice but to move to America.”

..........
While the second paragraph is an opinion (which many share), the first paragraph sounds very logical.

So I think that when the palace ‘men in grey suits’ were informed by Meghans communication secretary about the bullying of the females, they protected Meghan by hushing it up and brushing it under the carpet. The senior royals knew nothing about the allegations apparently, thats what their staff is there for.
Those staff need to be held to account and as these victims felt bullied and are still suffering from trauma a year later, as they have said, Meghan needs to be held to account. Those females are hardly being forced and coached by the royals to tell a pack of lies now, are they?
Meghan is choosing to tell the world her version of events, these girls have the right to tell theirs ahead of what would otherwise be a one - sided view.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by jet

I think this is at the heart of what went wrong...
From The Times:

The palace knew that when Harry married a woman who was biracial, American and divorced, they had to go out of their way to make sure the marriage was a success: if it was not, the royal household and their supposedly hidebound ways would be blamed. “Everyone knew that the institution would be judged by her happiness,” a source said. “The mistake they made was thinking she wanted to be happy. She wanted to be rejected because she was obsessed with that narrative from day one.”
More than one source has expressed their view about her wanting to be a victim. One claimed: “She wanted to be the victim because then she could convince Harry that it was an unbearable experience and they had no choice but to move to America.”

..........
While the second paragraph is an opinion (which many share), the first paragraph sounds very logical.

So I think that when the palace ‘men in grey suits’ were informed by Meghans communication secretary about the bullying of the females, they protected Meghan by hushing it up and brushing it under the carpet. The senior royals knew nothing about the allegations apparently, thats what their staff is there for.
Those staff need to be held to account and as these victims felt bullied and are still suffering from trauma a year later, as they have said, Meghan needs to be held to account. Those females are hardly being forced and coached by the royals to tell a pack of lies now, are they?
Meghan is choosing to tell the world her version of events, these girls have the right to tell theirs ahead of what would otherwise be a one - sided view.

I think that her thunder has been stolen by the "Survivors of the Sussex's" and i wonder if they will try and re-shoot stuff in light?

[jet]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think that her thunder has been stolen by the "Survivors of the Sussex's" and i wonder if they will try and re-shoot stuff in light?

Oprah having to do another edit? I wonder if she is beginning to doubt if this big scoop was such a good idea after all.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely the palace should be investigating prince Andrew as well.

No,
as that it all a USA Utter Mess

[Ammi]

..if these are copies of emails that were exchanged 3 years ago then this is reflecting so badly on the Royal household and Royal family as well...they can’t really not investigate now or state that they will conduct that investigation now and it be an independent investigation, I’m not sure who would conduct that tbh..they really are showing a failure to protect...this is important and very serious now but it wasn’t then..?...was William shown the email and no investigation into the accusation...and if there was one then no substance to be found in that investigation....?..if he wasn’t shown them ...then a very serious lacking in work policies and procedures in ‘potential bullying matters must come directly to a Royal member’... so the whole investigation now would need to focus greatly on that as well...I mean, the Royal family do all hold positions of power and we know that such power is frequently abused in many ways in work places...so this is somewhere where policies should be scrutinised to protect and any email such as that, be immediately taken action on...

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and womens rights...

until the Saudi prince gifts you some diamonds....

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..and hasn’t it been reported that William himself asked why Harry had to marry that American girl, or something similar...

No, I've never heard that reported anywhere.

According to the authors of Finding Freedom, William told his younger brother, “Don’t feel you need to rush this. Take as much time as you need to get to know this girl.”

Which is the same with all the other accounts I have read.

Maybe for the sake of accuracy, you would like to edit your post? Up to you of course.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The people who felt bullied by her felt bullied then. As I said, people on this forum said they heard of it at the time. My problem is if was known then, the Palace had a duty of care to investigate it THEN and they have neglected that duty until it became apparent that they may need some damage limitation or to at least make people doubt whatever it is Meghan has to say.

Yup, thats my thoughts on it too tbh.

I am not saying it did not happen, it might have. However, if it did, and it was known at the time, it seems quite ridiculous to just let it go for years, until now. IMO, as much as people keep saying 'X doesnt reflect well on Meghan' and such, this story, if true, makes 'the palace' look MUCH worse than Meghan does. Because quite simply, they ignored bullying accusations and just kept it as a trump card for the future just incase?! Didn't care about it at all until it could be used as a gotchya. Really.

Ontop of this, bullying accusations years on, are not likely to be proven really. At the time, it would have been easier to investigate, and potentially possible to prove, rather than gossip.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup, thats my thoughts on it too tbh.

I am not saying it did not happen, it might have. However, if it did, and it was known at the time, it seems quite ridiculous to just let it go for years, until now. IMO, as much as people keep saying 'X doesnt reflect well on Meghan' and such, this story, if true, makes 'the palace' look MUCH worse than Meghan does. Because quite simply, they ignored bullying accusations and just kept it as a trump card for the future just incase?! Didn't care about it at all until it could be used as a gotchya. Really.

Ontop of this, bullying accusations years on, are not likely to be proven really. At the time, it would have been easier to investigate, and potentially possible to prove, rather than gossip.

Maybe those people were too apprehensive to do anything at that time as they were both royals,maybe now they have stepped down they feel more able to persue the claims.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe those people were too apprehensive to do anything at that time as they were both royals,maybe now they have stepped down they feel more able to persue the claims.

... persue the money ....


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup, thats my thoughts on it too tbh.

I am not saying it did not happen, it might have. However, if it did, and it was known at the time, it seems quite ridiculous to just let it go for years, until now. IMO, as much as people keep saying 'X doesnt reflect well on Meghan' and such, this story, if true, makes 'the palace' look MUCH worse than Meghan does. Because quite simply, they ignored bullying accusations and just kept it as a trump card for the future just incase?! Didn't care about it at all until it could be used as a gotchya. Really.

Ontop of this, bullying accusations years on, are not likely to be proven really. At the time, it would have been easier to investigate, and potentially possible to prove, rather than gossip.

...yeah, I think also that it reflects so badly for the Royal family and household...which is why I’m also thinking that it wasn’t them who had any hand in this being said now, 3 year later, either...