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They're not opposites though, she's exactly the type of wife you could have guessed Harry would choose since his teens when everyone already knew he was a Royal Black Sheep. History is being willfully re-written on this one to pretend that he was "with the programme" before he met Meghan Markle. He blatantly was not and everyone knew it.
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Last edited by jet; 11-03-2021 at 04:34 PM. |
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It's OK jet we all have our unconscious biases - the important thing is to acknowledge them and do a li'l better each day ![]() |
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![]() Not any woman who ends up in a relationship with a 'man of status'. Meghan and Harry. Meghan and Harry - which this thread is about. Understand that yet? |
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i cant see it lasting tbh |
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![]() Endless assumptions about her without a shred of proof or even a specific indication, and they are oozing misogyny, and a little bit of classism and sectarianism, but let's face it it's all quite entertwined. |
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Assumptions are less dangerous than Accusations without proof... |
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Who are 'they'? Are 'they' the people you are making assumptions about?
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I’m seeing lots of pictures of Harry either on the back of his dads bike...being towed by his dad on a bike and cycling with his family as a young boy....contrary to what Harry said in the interview...
The untruths just seem to keep coming... |
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Edit - one is not a Royal author but a long retired press secretary to the Queen. Last edited by jet; 11-03-2021 at 11:34 PM. |
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Illustrates the general mindset quite well I think - all had made up their minds before even seeing it. Its called confirmation bias: you'll see what you want to see.
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.....and my goodness, when I watched it again afterwards their speculations were so spot on you'd swear they HAD seen it. They had her measure, just like most of the UK public do who are over 24 (according to all the polls, 18 - 24's is where the majority of their support comes from). Last edited by jet; 12-03-2021 at 01:11 AM. Reason: changing age range |
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As for it being "so spot on you'd swear they had seen it", see above re: confirmation bias. I've still yet to have anyone link me to one of these polls, also, their validity depends entirely on where it was that ran the poll. |
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I posted a link to the latest YouGOV poll elsewhere. Here it is: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...w-harry-meghan |
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What did he say about that?
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Confirmation bias is the reason that you view the interview and think "Oh boy, they/I were correct, exactly what I expected". A subconscious selective focus on certain pieces of information that happen to back up your preconceptions, whilst disregarding information that might counter those thoughts. Its very common and we're all susceptible to it. It's what makes Social Media so successful (and toxic), for example. |
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Regardless, people are laser-focussing on it in bad faith: he's using it as an illustrative example, all he's REALLY saying is "I don't remember spending much time as a family when I was a kid and I want things to be different for my children". Countering with "Aha! See you DID spend some time with your family!!" is really nit-picking. It's like someone saying "I was always unhappy in my marriage right from the start" and then someone else saying "AHA here's a picture of you smiling and laughing together - explain that!!" as evidence that not every single minute was misery. It's supposed to be a "gotcha", but it's only that to people who have expremely black & white thinking, either through inability for more nuanced consideration or just the usual banal pantomime where people pretend they don't get it. |
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