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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If there are issues, and you think other people's reactions and solutions to those issues are not going to work or even be counter-productive, surely the sensible thing to do is point out how/why you think those solutions are counter-productive or even contribute to the debate other ways in which you think things could be tackled, productively...

... ... the answer isn't just denying that the issue exists in the first place and bleating that anyone who has a problem with things "can just go live elsewhere"

My solution is they should STOP doing it that way for a start. Do you think the examples I cited are going to work?

I didn't deny issues exist, but there isn't a country in the world that doesn't have issues, we are better than many. If people just want to complain and be aggressive instead of being part of the solution, go to a country that you would be happier living in.