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[Tinsel Toes]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Is it made of gold

Its revolting !

[Tinsel Toes]

Originally Posted by arista

Talkabout overkill ! Taken to limit

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If you're clutching your pearls over what I said but are perfectly fine with Boris and co ****ting all over you, you're part of the problem.

The public have enabled the tories time and time again, they are utterly spineless.

I'm not getting shat on, I'm making loads of money.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm not getting shat on, I'm making loads of money.

Me neither Parmy, better off now than we've been in a long time, I think you get out of life what you put in.

[Candy Annie Cane]

An awful lot of people were not given the luxury of continuing to earn money though with so many sectors effectively shut down. Yes, the gov paid 80% of salary but that is only base line. A lot of people in the sales industry make more money on commission than they do salary....if you can't sell, you can't make commission. These people have lost far more than 20%. People live to their means so its great some have flourished but many more haven't.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

An awful lot of people were not given the luxury of continuing to earn money though with so many sectors effectively shut down. Yes, the gov paid 80% of salary but that is only base line. A lot of people in the sales industry make more money on commission than they do salary....if you can't sell, you can't make commission. These people have lost far more than 20%. People live to their means so its great some have flourished but many more haven't.

I get that Annie but that would have happened with any government surely, none have had to go through a pandemic, yes times have been hard, but there is help out there and sometimes we just have to help ourselves, I know lots of people do, but its undeniable some just sponge off whoever is willing to give. people moan about food banks but why ? if the food is there and will waste,give it to those that need it.

[bots]

I do think there will be a genuine bounce back over the summer so we do have something to look forward to after the horrendous winter

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

An awful lot of people were not given the luxury of continuing to earn money though with so many sectors effectively shut down. Yes, the gov paid 80% of salary but that is only base line. A lot of people in the sales industry make more money on commission than they do salary....if you can't sell, you can't make commission. These people have lost far more than 20%. People live to their means so its great some have flourished but many more haven't.

Spot on Annie again.

Of course it's good that some have managed to maintain or even better their own situations.


To have little to no empathy for those who have not been able to do so.
Well I find that Incredible.

On to another point too.
Of course too, there's likely hundreds of thousands at least of people left heartbroken, grieving for loved ones lost unnecessarily by the inaction of government too.
It's grossly insulting to present an I'm all right jack attitude when families, friends and neighbours have had their lives turned upside down, by the unnecessary losses of thousands of loved ones lives.

I'm unscathed financially from the pandemic but my heart and my family's too, are by the cruel unnecessary losses of 4 loved ones lives crushed and broken.

To hear even said in jest,. This PM alleged to have said, let bodies pile high..
To people like myself and my family that is an unforgivable disgrace.
Oh yes the groans will come again I'm on this topic, however it's getting more clear why this PM refuses to meet with families who've lost loved ones UNNECESSARILY, and why he'll do ANYTHING to refuse a full public inquiry now.

Because he needs any inquiry not to be held until he can likely have no conclusions made by it until after the next general election.
Which I think he'll go for in Spring 2024 at the latest.

There is only one characteristic this PM in my view has politically, and that is his masterfully execution in practice of total and utter deceit.
Even to abuse the power he was entrusted with.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

An awful lot of people were not given the luxury of continuing to earn money though with so many sectors effectively shut down. Yes, the gov paid 80% of salary but that is only base line. A lot of people in the sales industry make more money on commission than they do salary....if you can't sell, you can't make commission. These people have lost far more than 20%. People live to their means so its great some have flourished but many more haven't.

Perhaps boris johnsons reasoning for not wanting another lockdown.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

An awful lot of people were not given the luxury of continuing to earn money though with so many sectors effectively shut down. Yes, the gov paid 80% of salary but that is only base line. A lot of people in the sales industry make more money on commission than they do salary....if you can't sell, you can't make commission. These people have lost far more than 20%. People live to their means so its great some have flourished but many more haven't.

Well said Annie.

I know a person who had worked hard for 5+ years for other people to save to open her own business and she was open about 7 months and business was so good, then covid struck and she lost everything because of no help from the government. It's nice some have done well out of it but this girls 24 and a single parent who lost her business and it's gross to see people insinuate she mustn't have done enough.

[Parmy]

"To have little to no empathy for those who have not been able to do so.
Well I find that Incredible."


The statement dezzy made was that people were supporting the Tories whilst being shat on, not about showing empathy..

My answer was in regards to the fact I support the Tories and I am not being shat on...you do not know how I feel about people losing thier lives to the virus...you claim I'm not showing empathy whilst not knowing one thing about how I feel about it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Me neither Parmy, better off now than we've been in a long time, I think you get out of life what you put in.

I think that's a bit of an over-simplification, many have been unable to carry on working... it's not that they're "not putting enough in". I'm lucky to be able to say that I'm once again better off this year than last, as has been the case for the last 5 years or so and likely to continue, but I am well aware that there is a huge element of luck involved; my wife works in healthcare and the company I work with was able to shift quite seamlessly to being entirely online. But I started here only a year before the pandemic (April 2019) - if I was still in retail management, I'd have been sat on furlough for most of 2020 and all of 2021 so far.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

My answer was in regards to the fact I support the Tories and I am not being shat on...you do not know how I feel about people losing thier lives to the virus...you claim I'm not showing empathy whilst not knowing one thing about how I feel about it.

No man is an island Parmy; letting people slip into poverty and under-funding public services ruins the towns and cities we live in, under-funding of the emergency services can affect anyone at any time, failure to invest in transport clogs the roads you use for work every day, etc.

Your own personal income might be fine under the Tories but that doesn't mean you're not being shat on. And I doubt your income is comparable to the wealth of any of the bigger Tory names.

Like I said above my income has been steadily increasing for years and we're very comfortable, but I still have to drive my nice new car through towns and villages that are falling apart and full of miserable faces. Doing well yourself doesn't mean you can pretend things are good all round.

[bots]

vaccination was the only real choice for the government to make on getting the country in a position to bounce back and when you compare us against europe, we have a blazing head start. I don't like Boris, I don't like this government, but in vaccination they have done a pretty good job which will ultimately be the strategy that saves the most lives and get things back to normal for the vast majority of the population. People can rightly criticize Boris for his lack of tact, but that's all it is, because the vaccination program shows his commitment to getting the country back on track and that's all that ultimately matters for the country right now

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Me neither Parmy, better off now than we've been in a long time, I think you get out of life what you put in.

Typical Tory response.

‘I’m doing fine, so everyone who’s not must be lazy layabouts’ gross.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Typical Tory response.

‘I’m doing fine, so everyone who’s not must be lazy layabouts’ gross.

Typcal leftie response !
No one has said that ,strange you had such a reaction!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Typical Tory response.

‘I’m doing fine, so everyone who’s not must be lazy layabouts’ gross.

I read it the same way.
Just awful to those who are and have been left moreso really struggling.

Sadly I hear it loads from the more hard-line Cons.
Who then attack lefties for caring about the more vulnerable of society.
Unbelievable.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I read it the same way.
Just awful to those who are and have been left moreso really struggling.

Sadly I hear it loads from the more hard-line Cons.
Who then attack lefties for caring about the more vulnerable of society.
Unbelievable.

Of course you did Joey ,but that was only part of my post, I know people have suffered ,we were low at one point, but surely that would have happened under anyone's watch during a pandemic, things had to be tough at times. We work hard ,why should I be ashamed of that ?

[Alf]

Sam Allerdyce to be sworn in as Prime minister until the end of the season. He's the only man who can save us in these situations.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No man is an island Parmy; letting people slip into poverty and under-funding public services ruins the towns and cities we live in, under-funding of the emergency services can affect anyone at any time, failure to invest in transport clogs the roads you use for work every day, etc.

Your own personal income might be fine under the Tories but that doesn't mean you're not being shat on. And I doubt your income is comparable to the wealth of any of the bigger Tory names.

Like I said above my income has been steadily increasing for years and we're very comfortable, but I still have to drive my nice new car through towns and villages that are falling apart and full of miserable faces. Doing well yourself doesn't mean you can pretend things are good all round.

Exactly. It’s sheer ignorance.

[Parmy]

I simply dont feel shat on, and I'm not ashamed to say that.