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Old 20-06-2021, 09:48 AM #1
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Racism works both ways, no?
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Both? There are more than two races. Black people can be racist against Indians, who can be racist against Chinese ... Who can all be racist against whites.

There's no both ways about it, anyone can be either a perpetuator or victim of racism.
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It's not about being racist against honkys. It's the opposite in fact because the crackers are over represented in most industries, so trying to find a bit of balance from a cross section of all British communities isn't racist.

I don't remember seeing this kind of outrage when Muslim, Indian, or African names aren't even given interviews.

It's about over representation, not discrimination.
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It's not about being racist against honkys. It's the opposite in fact, because the crackers are over represented in most industries, so trying to find a bit of balance from a cross section of all British communities isn't racist.

I don't remember seeing this kind of outrage when Muslim, Indian, or African names aren't even given interviews.

It's about over representation, not discrimination.
Why does race need to be highlighted though? I mean, by law of averages more white people will apply for most jobs based purely on the fact the the UK population is over 80% white.

We may look somewhat different on the outside, but on the inside we're the exact same. Isn't that what it should be about? Equal, never treated lesser, never treated more than, equal.

Im not outraged or anything, the BBC get to do what they like, it's their Corporation they can hire who they like, i just don't see this as progression. The opposite in fact.

Logic would say hire the best person for the job, no matter race.
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Why does race need to be highlighted though? I mean, by law of averages more white people will apply for most jobs based purely on the fact the the UK population is over 80% white.

We may look somewhat different on the outside, but on the inside we're the exact same. Isn't that what it should be about? Equal, never treated lesser, never treated more than, equal.

Im not outraged or anything, the BBC get to do what they like, it's their Corporation they can hire who they like, i just don't see this as progression. The opposite in fact.

Logic would say hire the best person for the job, no matter race.
Because history and experience have proved that best person for the job doesn't really exist a lot of the time, and studies have shown that using the exact same CV but with different names yields different results. Maybe their last 15 trainees were white dudes, so are looking to add different experiences into the mix.
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and studies have shown that using the exact same CV but with different names yields different results.
Do you have a link to any of these "studies"? Without seeing their methodology, it's hard to know how trustworthy they are - names like Shoniqua and Precious probably would be overlooked in favour of Emily and Tarquin. Just like how CVs from Billy-Bob and Jaiden/Braiden/Kaiden and Shantelle would probably end up in the bin.

If they used trashy names for one and nice names for another, of course the results will be unbalanced.
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Do you have a link to any of these "studies"? Without seeing their methodology, it's hard to know how trustworthy they are - names like Shoniqua and Precious probably would be overlooked in favour of Emily and Tarquin. Just like how CVs from Billy-Bob and Jaiden/Braiden/Kaiden and Shantelle would probably end up in the bin.

If they used trashy names for one and nice names for another, of course the results will be unbalanced.
Yeah, you and I have had this exact conversation before. I provided the links then, not doing it again when you have google.
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Do you have a link to any of these "studies"? Without seeing their methodology, it's hard to know how trustworthy they are - names like Shoniqua and Precious probably would be overlooked in favour of Emily and Tarquin. Just like how CVs from Billy-Bob and Jaiden/Braiden/Kaiden and Shantelle would probably end up in the bin.

If they used trashy names for one and nice names for another, of course the results will be unbalanced.
There have been loads of these studies...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46927417

https://www.raconteur.net/hr/diversi...nic-name-bias/

https://www.ibtimes.com/employment-d...r-time-2487220

The REC also issued guidance on similar studies to its members.
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Do you have a link to any of these "studies"? Without seeing their methodology, it's hard to know how trustworthy they are - names like Shoniqua and Precious probably would be overlooked in favour of Emily and Tarquin. Just like how CVs from Billy-Bob and Jaiden/Braiden/Kaiden and Shantelle would probably end up in the bin.

If they used trashy names for one and nice names for another, of course the results will be unbalanced.
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It's not about being racist against honkys. It's the opposite in fact because the crackers are over represented in most industries, so trying to find a bit of balance from a cross section of all British communities isn't racist.

I don't remember seeing this kind of outrage when Muslim, Indian, or African names aren't even given interviews.

It's about over representation, not discrimination.
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