[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…and for those who actually knew her in Schull…some can still barely speak about it, their voices breaking with the emotion…the impact of the violence of her death and ‘a monster living among them’ is just a darkness on their lives…

Yeah definitely, it's such a peaceful, friendly place too, always so safe

[Cherie]

Finished this now.

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it left me feeling a little empty and sad, I changed my mind multiple times about whether he is the killer, if he is, he will never do time for it, I feel the family were let down badly by the Guards very early on, they put all their eggs in one basket and it appears interfered with witnesses to get a conviction, Marie Farrell retracting her statement, and the guy they paid off to befriend him all helps Baileys case, I am not sure he or Jules Thomas are stable enough to have kept the murder to themselves all this time, also there didn't seem to be a motive other than that it gave him work, then the French accepting Marie Farrells first statement and not accepting her offer to go to France to attend the trial, it felt again like they were doing anything they could to be a guilty verdict, her poor parents and her son, it's all very sad and will we ever know the truth, Jules leaving Bailey finally was the only high point for me

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Finished this now.

Spoiler:

it left me feeling a little empty and sad, I changed my mind multiple times about whether he is the killer, if he is, he will never do time for it, I feel the family were let down badly by the Guards very early on, they put all their eggs in one basket and it appears interfered with witnesses to get a conviction, Marie Farrell retracting her statement, and the guy they paid off to befriend him all helps Baileys case, I am not sure he or Jules Thomas are stable enough to have kept the murder to themselves all this time, also there didn't seem to be a motive other than that it gave him work, then the French accepting Marie Farrells first statement and not accepting her offer to go to France to attend the trial, it felt again like they were doing anything they could to be a guilty verdict, her poor parents and her son, it's all very sad and will we ever know the truth, Jules leaving Bailey finally was the only high point for me

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…I feel incredibly sad for her son and her parents because two horrendous crimes have been committed in her brutal death but also in the absence of justice for it….

…It’s a difficult thing because with some of the things that I originally read with the case…(…which may or may not be true…)…I thought that I’d read that he had, had and kept photographs of ‘beaten up women’ and was quite obsessed with violent death…there seem to have been accounts that weren’t shown in the series….and there is going to be another series in a few days time and that might show a different perspective again….I do agree with what was said at the end in that Ian Bailey has ‘created his own guilt’ in this by his actions and words etc at the beginning… and being egotistical enough to ‘mock himself as the killer if he didn’t do it…’…. He’s created his own nightmare world and his own personal prison…
…and still he had very little thought for Sophie’s family and their life prison, it was all about him….when he referred to Sophie as ‘that woman’…awful….


…I am a little suspicious of her husband at the time as well…I know that he had an alibi but he could have had someone else commit the crime …I think he’s dead now, I’m not sure…?….

…in anyways, I doubt that there will ever be accountability and justice sadly…

[Niamh.]

Finished Ep 4 last night, have to wait till Sunday now for the last episode ggrrr The Police made a right balls of the investigation though

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Finished Ep 4 last night, have to wait till Sunday now for the last episode ggrrr The Police made a right balls of the investigation though

They really did, but then it's hard to blame them, its not exactly standard work they were asked to do, they should have sent a team from the Smoke to handle if from the off

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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…I feel incredibly sad for her son and her parents because two horrendous crimes have been committed in her brutal death but also in the absence of justice for it….

…It’s a difficult thing because with some of the things that I originally read with the case…(…which may or may not be true…)…I thought that I’d read that he had, had and kept photographs of ‘beaten up women’ and was quite obsessed with violent death…there seem to have been accounts that weren’t shown in the series….and there is going to be another series in a few days time and that might show a different perspective again….I do agree with what was said at the end in that Ian Bailey has ‘created his own guilt’ in this by his actions and words etc at the beginning… and being egotistical enough to ‘mock himself as the killer if he didn’t do it…’…. He’s created his own nightmare world and his own personal prison…
…and still he had very little thought for Sophie’s family and their life prison, it was all about him….when he referred to Sophie as ‘that woman’…awful….


…I am a little suspicious of her husband at the time as well…I know that he had an alibi but he could have had someone else commit the crime …I think he’s dead now, I’m not sure…?….

…in anyways, I doubt that there will ever be accountability and justice sadly…

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I found it particularly poignant that her son still had her coat on the hook and her tea,

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They really did, but then it's hard to blame them, its not exactly standard work they were asked to do, they should have sent a team from the Smoke to handle if from the off

Yeah probably never came across anything that big ever down that direction and probably never did again i would imagine

[hijaxers]

Just been reading Ian Bailey is threatening to sue Netflix re another documentary thats also been released.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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I found it particularly poignant that her son still had her coat on the hook and her tea,

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…I know, she was everything in his life as she and his father had separated when he was a baby and for 14yrs she had been his life’s happiness and then it all became such a sadness…I guess that one thing if any small light can be taken at all is that I read that Pierre became closer with his father again…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Just been reading Ian Bailey is threatening to sue Netflix re another documentary thats also been released.

The crews of the Sky and Netflix documentaries were in West Cork at the same time. Pierre-Louis claims Sheridan told locals not to speak to the Netflix crew. “That was so wrong,” he says. “It is a public affair and nobody has the right to block witnesses. This is not Jim Sheridan’s project, it’s not Jim Sheridan’s life, it’s not Jim Sheridan’s affair. I really was furious. I told him, ‘Stop, I’m not happy with that.’”

Bailey signed an exclusivity deal with Sheridan, meaning Netflix only had interviews with him from 2018. Bailey is now threatening to sue Netflix for airing them. “Exclusive contracts are rare in documentaries but for a prime suspect to sign one when he claims he wants his story out there is odd,” says Dower. “Sheridan’s film takes the stance that Ian Bailey is a victim of police corruption and they’re entitled to do that; we took the view of the family [that Bailey is guilty]. The idea that documentaries are objective is bollocks. Now Bailey’s saying our film is poisonous propaganda. I don’t want to make this about the battle of the two films, because ours is about Sophie and this story, but it’s unavoidable.”


https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b1874170.html

[Niamh.]

Will be interesting to see the netflix take on it but there was undoubtedly Police corruption going on

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Will be interesting to see the netflix take on it but there was undoubtedly Police corruption going on

…it says in the article that Sophie’s family would only agree to take part if it was more a tribute to her life…so that’s the perspective it’ll take I would think….it just all leaves such sadness because I doubt there will ever be justice, poor Sophie and her family …and poor Schull because this is something that scarred their lives so much as well when they speak of it…