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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the labour party are too big, they try and represent too wide a spectrum of political views. The public know this and don't trust them from whatever political preference they have.

There is a reason Starmer doesn't have a set of policies. To generate them would expose that labour just don't agree, and he doesn't have the power to dictate what policies will be followed. Meanwhile a small group of tories ... actually less than a handful, can set the tory agenda, set the public messaging and then the vast majority of tory mp's fall into line.

That is the reason tories can basically do anything they want

Yes Labour is split between left-of-centrism, 20th century socialism, and identity politics-based progressivism.

On a whole plethora of issues - the ideologies barely overlap.

Of course the Tories have factions too but they're all largely rooted in Conservatism/disdain for the poor as an ideology so despite some in-fighting they can still come together on the big issues.

We need a proper, modern, sensible centre-left party that isn't bogged down in ****ing nonsense... or it's Tories forever.