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Old 22-07-2021, 11:16 AM #1
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Yes Labour is split between left-of-centrism, 20th century socialism, and identity politics-based progressivism.
It's ridiculous that a major party even touches the latter, while the former benefits virtually everyone (as long as they're not using ridiculously high taxes). Identity politics on the other hand easily dissolves into divisive Marxist-flavoured extremism, where the Oppressor is the straight white man (regardless of his economic status), and everyone else is the Oppressed.
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It's ridiculous that a major party even touches the latter, while the former benefits virtually everyone (as long as they're not using ridiculously high taxes). Identity politics on the other hand easily dissolves into divisive Marxist-flavoured extremism, where the Oppressor is the straight white man (regardless of his economic status), and everyone else is the Oppressed.
What does the bit in bold actually mean? You do realise that Marxism is primarily about the rights of workers versus capitalistic abuses? Which you then go on to completely miss in the following line.

The problem with this centrism is amazing nonsense, is that the centre has now been pushed so far to the right by society and the rise of the right across the world, that centrism will not address any of the inequalities now faced, enabling the right to get straight back in.

People have been zombied into believing that money for things society needs is impossible, but we watch the government throw money at their friends. I'm not even talking solely about tories here as new labour were just as much into cronyism too. Capita - the biggest government services company around, all built on the back of the owners £1m donation to Blair.

It's a lot easier to pretend you're on a mountain looking down at everyone else being wrong and misguided from the centre, but let's see what this mythical centre-leftism has to offer, and I guarantee it'll be a lot closer to Cameron, than anything progressive like the NHS, paying nurses, addressing climate etc.

When a politician is called a communist for wanting free broadband for all, then you know it's not about ideas or policies at this stage, its status quo.
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