[arista]

The announcement came on the fourth day
of the Chancellor's visit to China, during
which he spent the day at the company's
global headquarters in the
southern city of Shenzhen.
By visiting the sprawling campus-based
site with a delegation of small and
medium-sized British tech firms,
George Osborne gave a clear
endorsement of a controversial company.
The United States has banned Huawei
from selling everything except its mobile
handsets and broadband devices.



A Growing Company.



Sign Of The Times

[zakman440]

I have a Huawei phone. They're s***.

[arista]

Originally Posted by zakman440

I have a Huawei phone. They're s***.

Yes they a Cheap
they are growing as a Company hence
this R&D in England.

[Samm]

what is a Huawei

[arista]

Originally Posted by SamP

what is a Huawei

Cheaper mobiles at Argos & other stores




A Big Company in China


Cheaper LED TV's online selling


And Massive broadband underground
set ups.




And R&D

[arista]

[BBC Text
The Times says the Chinese tech company Huawei,
which was banned from involvement in the UK's 5G infrastructure
over security concerns, has been
accused of "infiltrating" a Cambridge University research centre.
The paper says three out of four
directors at the Cambridge Centre
for Chinese Management,
part of the university's business school,
have links to the company.]

[Saph]

when I used to work at a phone shop years ago this would always be the type of phone we'd sell to old grannies because they were the only ones gullible enough to buy one

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Saph

when I used to work at a phone shop years ago this would always be the type of phone we'd sell to old grannies because they were the only ones gullible enough to buy one

P20's and P30's were actually great phones, clean and very responsive, good screens, decent build quality, no slowdown over time (I'm looking at you, Samsung). I loved my P20 Pro . Though to be fair, in the end the battery puffed up so badly it cracked open the back case . Apparently that's something that can randomly happen to the Li-ion batteries in any phone though, who knew.

Obviously Huawei's beyond the P30 generation became useless because Google stopped allowing them to use Google Services (including Play Store) so really they're useless outside of China.

[Toy Soldier]

I'm pretty sure the "Huawei is Chinese spies" thing is nonsense anyway, it was part of Trump's trade war rhetoric... but the company has been successfully nullified outside of China.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm pretty sure the "Huawei is Chinese spies" thing is nonsense anyway, it was part of Trump's trade war rhetoric... but the company has been successfully nullified outside of China.

But Times today
has found out
there is a UK security problem.


["infiltrating" a Cambridge University research centre.]

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by arista

But Times today
has found out
there is a UK security problem.


["infiltrating" a Cambridge University research centre.]

The "problem" is simply that they have links to Huawei and that in itself is considered to be a security risk, because Trump's anti-Huawei campaign had the company successfully branded as such.

I'm not defending them per se, allowing Chinese company to have a larger grip on the global tech market than they already do probably is indeed a mistake, but do I think their phones or tech were "spying on people" any more than any other smartphone ... ? Or that they were passing everyone's details straight to the CCP? ... No I don't.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm pretty sure the "Huawei is Chinese spies" thing is nonsense anyway, it was part of Trump's trade war rhetoric... but the company has been successfully nullified outside of China.

Are you telling us that everyone who opposes Huawai has really bad grammar?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

Are you telling us that everyone who opposes Huawai has really bad grammar?

I'd be willing to make an argument for this being correct grammar. Huawei is a singular entity made up of thousands of people, but Huawei itself is not sentient, thus Huawei cannot be "a spy", yet to say "Huawei employees are spies" doesn't accurately capture the allegation (which IS against the company as a singular, not aimed at any individual employee).

I would accept that "Huawei spies for the CCP" is probably more succinct .

[bitontheslide]

the biggest risk is letting the chinese have access to western IP, hence the worry about the connection with the cambridge uni as that will be involved in all sorts of research

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'd be willing to make an argument for this being correct grammar. Huawei is a singular entity made up of thousands of people, but Huawei itself is not sentient, thus Huawei cannot be "a spy", yet to say "Huawei employees are spies" doesn't accurately capture the allegation (which IS against the company as a singular, not aimed at any individual employee).

I would accept that "Huawei spies for the CCP" is probably more succinct .

LOL...

Honestly TS, I've never known anyone who produces such articulat arguments when you're this wrong!

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

LOL...

Honestly TS, I've never known anyone who produces such articulat arguments when you're this wrong!

Maybe I should've gone into politics.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Maybe I should've gone into politics.

You couldn't do worse than the politicians we've got.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

You couldn't do worse than the politicians we've got.

I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired this...

...in place of Boris they would have a Queen! Not dark, but beautiful and terrible as the morning! Treacherous as the Sea! Stronger than the foundations of the earth!!

All shall love me and despair!

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired this...

...in place of Boris they would have a Queen! Not dark, but beautiful and terrible as the morning! Treacherous as the Sea! Stronger than the foundations of the earth!!

All shall love me and despair!

Lord of the Rings trilogy -quote (Elven Queen/Empress). Minus the name Boris.