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MTVN · 19-12-2021, 09:15 AM

We always fare badly because we're densely populated and see a lot of international travel. Plus a lot of European countries basically never gave up restrictions whereas we've thankfully had none

Holland going back into lockdown will tell you that plenty of other countries are seeing massive cases as well though

arista · 19-12-2021, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

Surely if it’s so virulent the whole world would be shutting down to all other countries rather than just the uk

Just wondered why we seem to be doing worse than everyone else ?

Is it simply due to us being a tiny island with a dense ( both meanings ) population ??

Yes New York
has Omicron as bad as the UK.

But China gets Omicron in a Port
they Close that Port
Test EVERYONE
Put's it into fast Lockdown.
No one can leave that zone

Cherie · 19-12-2021, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by All The Jingle Ladies

"Still, it is worth pointing out that, at every stage, the models used by public health
agencies exaggerated the numbers of infections and of deaths. Indeed, it may well be
that, once again, the lockdown will come into effect only after the peak in new infections
has passed. Why do our leaders keep falling for it?

Because, I’m afraid, all the incentives are stacked one way. No politician ever gets into
trouble for erring on the side of caution. Nor does any public health adviser. No one has
ever been hounded from office for spending too much on test and trace, or for imposing
restrictions that had little effect, or for making predictions that were excessively
alarmist. Make the slightest slip the other way, though, and you’re finished."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...boris-dont-do/

Precisely

Wales had a circuit breaker last year that made no difference at all ...

arista · 19-12-2021, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry Christmas

Precisely

Wales had a circuit breaker last year that made no difference at all ...

They did it too late.

Livia · 19-12-2021, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

The medical profession are tossing it off doing tiktok dances and spending their time in test centres testing healthy people whilst sick people are going without care.

I'm sorry Alfie, that is just not true. If people don't want to get jabbed, that's up to them, but then to expect to receive medical treatment when it all goes the shape of the pear.... No.

You must be the only person in the country who think that the medical profession are "tossing it off doing tiktok dances...." and as much as I adore you, that's a really awful and misguided thing to say.

user104658 · 19-12-2021, 02:18 PM

I think part of the issue is that people see nurses on a break when a ward is busy and think “hmph they shouldn’t get a break when it’s so busy”. But it’s always that busy… and they don’t get paid for that break… so essentially it’s saying that hospital staff shouldn’t get breaks, ever, and should also work an extra half hour a day for no pay.

I don’t know about anyone else, but if I’m in hospital, I don’t want to be being watched over by a member of medical staff who is burnt out and hasn’t eaten all day? Just asking for critical errors to happen.

Alf · 19-12-2021, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I'm sorry Alfie, that is just not true. If people don't want to get jabbed, that's up to them, but then to expect to receive medical treatment when it all goes the shape of the pear.... No.

You must be the only person in the country who think that the medical profession are "tossing it off doing tiktok dances...." and as much as I adore you, that's a really awful and misguided thing to say.

The hospitals are full of people who can't be put into care homes because 60,000 care home workers have just been fired, yet you claim they're full of unvaccinated people. As far as I can see the unvaccinated people are not in hospital, they're out on the streets protesting.

Crimson Dynamo · 19-12-2021, 02:55 PM

Youtube video

arista · 19-12-2021, 03:13 PM

Sunday 19/12/21

45 have Died
82,886 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,611

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
875

147,218 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Alf · 19-12-2021, 03:25 PM

Crimson Dynamo · 19-12-2021, 03:50 PM

Covid hotspot figures show NHS may avoid being overwhelmed by omicron - here’s why

Sharp rise in cases in South Northamptonshire has not been followed by
comparable growth in hospital admissions, data show

Analysis by The Telegraph of Britain’s outbreak hotspot of the new variant
reveals that the spike in cases is not being followed by a comparable rise in
hospital admissions.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...elmed-omicron/

MTVN · 19-12-2021, 04:08 PM

Another fall in cases, Omicron is over

arista · 19-12-2021, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie

Another fall in cases, Omicron is over

Sadly it is not
still growing
Spreading much faster

bots · 19-12-2021, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie

Another fall in cases, Omicron is over

its certainly not rising exponentially that's for sure. No doubt the doom mongers will continue with their narrative regardless

Crimson Dynamo · 19-12-2021, 04:57 PM

Aristacron

Alf · 19-12-2021, 05:28 PM

What?

Also, notice when mentioning the one death she uses the word "with" and not "from"

arista · 19-12-2021, 05:29 PM

[Number of cases has risen by 32,473 (64.4%) in
seven days but is lower than yesterday's figure of 90,418]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ll-111-45.html

Crimson Dynamo · 19-12-2021, 05:29 PM

Crimson Dynamo · 19-12-2021, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

[Number of cases has risen by 32,473 (64.4%) in
seven days but is lower than yesterday's figure of 90,418]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ll-111-45.html

they were showing empty streets in Scotland

why are they now showing crowded streets

their trolling for likes/money is a national disgrace

user104658 · 19-12-2021, 06:08 PM

I’ll just reiterate what I said before. A few days worth of data is nowhere near enough to be drawing conclusions from, and the attempts to do so are at best wishful thinking, and at worst dangerously dumb.

It might be fine. It might be a disaster. We simply don’t know yet, there hasn’t been enough data to make any sort of projection. Why do people keep trying? Why are people still declaring it a “false alarm” or “over” based on less than a week’s data that includes the notoriously unreliable weekend numbers?

Crimson Dynamo · 19-12-2021, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Santa

I’ll just reiterate what I said before. A few days worth of data is nowhere near enough to be drawing conclusions from, and the attempts to do so are at best wishful thinking, and at worst dangerously dumb.

It might be fine. It might be a disaster. We simply don’t know yet, there hasn’t been enough data to make any sort of projection. Why do people keep trying? Why are people still declaring it a “false alarm” or “over” based on less than a week’s data that includes the notoriously unreliable weekend numbers?

history tells us that Sage get it wrong 100% of the time