[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course he's an Invader ffs

Yes he has
But it used to be part of Russia.
Some speak Russian
in that nice nation.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

could you share?

If he doesn't want Zelenskyy to step down why is he invading..?

He got me hot and bothered with this kind of foreplay the other day, but he couldn't seal the deal then, either.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Poland do not like Black folk.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/...chaos-26357661

I thought all men under 60 were being kept in Ukraine to fight. Maybe it was something to do with that, rather than the amount of pigment their skin has?

[user104658]

To be fair, Putin's best-case scenario for taking + holding Ukraine would be Zelenskyy capitulating and Ukraine becoming a Russian vassal. Then they'd quickly hold a faux-democratic vote and he'd be voted out and replaced with a "proper" puppet government which would miraculously then be voted in by a landslide forever more.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I thought all men under 60 were being kept in Ukraine to fight. Maybe it was something to do with that, rather than the amount of pigment their skin has?

No these Black folk are Students
or workers.



Loads of Students went there,
as Study is cheaper

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I thought all men under 60 were being kept in Ukraine to fight. Maybe it was something to do with that, rather than the amount of pigment their skin has?

All Ukrainian men I would assume? From what I've read a lot of these people (men and women) were foreign students

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

could you share?

If he doesn't want Zelenskyy to step down why is he invading..?

I don't know, I only have my theory and I'm definitely not 100% sure of that theory, far from it.

Maybe they're working together to take down a different enemy to what we're being told. (deep state)

I understand that sounds crazy, but so many things have been crazy for the past decade.

Think what they did to Afghanistan and Libya? I think they did the same to the USA. Overthrew the government and put puppets in place.

Trump has told us, he caught them all.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The Germans were unstoppable, too. No one had even slowed them down. I thought all the "It woz the english alone what won the war" types would be a little more gung-ho. I thought not pushing crazy destruction and war was dangerous leftism?

To be serious though, there is a bit of a stand off really. Putin has obviously made the calculation thus far, that exterminating civilians whilst at the same time claiming to be a liberator, doesn't really add up. As soon as he starts levelling cities, then the facade slips, and there is no going back to the propaganda war and any claims he's made to his army and his population have been proved false. Lots of his soldiers are already demoralised, believing they were going there as liberators.

Yes, but the Americans with the British
Could stop the Germans


Ukraine Alone can not stop Russia
So save lives
Surrender

[arista]

An Indian Student left the Underground
and went up to buy supplies.

He was Shot Dead by a Russian troop.

Ref: WION HD Live

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

I don't know, I only have my theory and I'm definitely not 100% sure of that theory, far from it.

Maybe they're working together to take down a different enemy to what we're being told. (deep state)

I understand that sounds crazy, but so many things have been crazy for the past decade.

Think what they did to Afghanistan and Libya? I think they did the same to the USA. Overthrew the government and put puppets in place.

Which enemy fo you think might be the real target and to what ends?

What is the deep state reference? The US? The deep state version you're familiar with is basically a figment of trumps imagination. The real deep state are orgs like the CIA that have put most of the world in peril at one time or another with continuous regime changes. Trust me, no deep state was desperate to stop trump - especially as he would be a puppet for anyone who told him he was great. The most easily controllable man in the world if you're a secret org with geo-political aims.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, but the Americans with the British
Could stop the Germans


Ukraine Alone can not stop Russia
So save lives
Surrender

Yes I'm sure you'd be urging your government to surrender too if someone was trying to take over England

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes I'm sure you'd be urging your government to surrender too if someone was trying to take over England

In a Future Ware yes.
Then we would Kill the New Leader

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

In a Future Ware yes.
Then we would Kill the New Leader

Course you would

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Which enemy fo you think might be the real target and to what ends?

What is the deep state reference? The US? The deep state version you're familiar with is basically a figment of trumps imagination. The real deep state are orgs like the CIA that have put most of the world in peril at one time or another with continuous regime changes. Trust me, no deep state was desperate to stop trump - especially as he would be a puppet for anyone who told him he was great. The most easily controllable man in the world if you're a secret org with geo-political aims.

The deep state will be global, not just the US.

And "Orange man bad" doesn't cut it with me as a good counter argument.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

All Ukrainian men I would assume? From what I've read a lot of these people (men and women) were foreign students

Is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes I'm sure you'd be urging your government to surrender too if someone was trying to take over England

He might be right. We're the country that cried to leave Europe because foreigners were coming here. They weren't even invading and we surrendered .

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Course you would

We would have to.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He might be right. We're the country that cried to leave Europe because foreigners were coming here. They weren't even invading and we surrendered .

You're still stuck in 2016. And still using the same useless arguments which you lost with in that referendum.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

The deep state will be global, not just the US.

And "Orange man bad" doesn't cut it with me as a good counter argument.

I didn't say orange man bad. He spoke of his love affair with Kim after he sent trump a nice letter, so if you think there is a secret clandestine global organisation working away, you think they wouldn't know he's a sucker for praise?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

All Ukrainian men I would assume? From what I've read a lot of these people (men and women) were foreign students

I thought the order was all men no matter what

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

You're still stuck in 2016. And still using the same useless arguments which you lost with in that referendum.

it's not an argument, it's what happened - it's history. By every metric, we're worse off under brexit, which only leaves one possible explanation.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

If they were foreign students attending universities I'm sure they would have ID and papers to prove that. Anyway that's just what I read about it anyway

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...-poland-border

[glib]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes he has
But it used to be part of Russia.
Some speak Russian
in that nice nation.

Wrong, the majority of people in Crimea speak Russian, but Russia want it as it has access to ports, not because ‘some’ people there speak Russian, stop talking please.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I thought the order was all men no matter what

A spokesperson for the Ukrainian border guards also denied reports of discriminatory practices. He stressed that only Ukrainian men aged between 18 and 60 – who are required to join the war effort – were barred from leaving the country.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...-poland-border

[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

passports are the usual give away

There is evidence of racist behaviour at the border, i don't think it can be denied. Black women were told to go back in the queue as they came to the border point and never allowed through