[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

She could literally have beaten her entire family to a pulp with a tire iron and it wouldn’t prove that Johnny Depp didn’t hit her. I’m still struggling to understand why people can’t understand that.

So what about if there's a self defense angle?. What if Heard was beating him and he tried to hold her hands and tell her to stop and she continued??. Didn't he use to leave the room before things escalated??. I saw the kitchen video where she follows him while filming him .

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

So what about if there's a self defense angle?. What if Heard was beating him and he tried to hold her hands and tell her to stop and she continued??. Didn't he use to leave the room before things escalated??. I saw the kitchen video where she follows him while filming him .

It’s not a criminal trial, it’s a defamation case. She says he hit her. He says he didn’t and so that’s libel. If he did, for any reason, it’s not libel.

People seem to be forgetting that this is a civil case trying to prove defamation… it is NOT a criminal trial trying to prove assault or abuse.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It’s not a criminal trial, it’s a defamation case. She says he hit her. He says he didn’t and so that’s libel. If he did, for any reason, it’s not libel.

People seem to be forgetting that this is a civil case trying to prove defamation… it is NOT a criminal trial trying to prove assault or abuse.

But there's holes in Heard's version of events . And why does she put such emphasis on the carpet being "so dirty" and the floor being "white and tiled". If there's domestic violence going on and she's being assaulted and thrown on the ground , the least of her worries would be the decor surely ? .

She also doesn't seem to remember if she threw anything at Depp, and she contradicted herself by saying she's never landed anything on him yet before she said she slapped him. It's as if it doesn't matter that she hit him.

And in the text messages the apology he makes , says nothing about him getting 'physical' with her.... he just apologises for his anger and behaviour in general. And her replies back to him mention nothing about him 'hitting' her .

And when she remembers their first kiss , she smiles and looks happy . If he was this horrible woman beater why would she look so happy? . If she'd suffered so badly at his hands .....then she would now be repulsed and those once 'happy memories' would now be tainted surely?? .

[Vanessa]

https://twitter.com/JanetRally/statu...eMCnhA&s=19The picture Amber gave TMZ is from 2012!
She testified that the first incident was in 2013
This is very bad for her. Johnny's team can use it to prove that the abuse allegations are one big hoax!

[GoldHeart]

Also Heard has gone and let something slip ,when she said Depp was pushing her & pulling her hair.

Why did she act it out with hand gestures like she's the 'AGGRESSOR' . She also let slip and said who was really the one walking away to de escalate the fight, which must have been Depp .

But she says he pulled her back and grabbed her hair. But everything she describes, is like she's acting out the abuser's actions.

If I was re telling a fight of someone grabbing my hair,I would not use the hand gestures she used.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Also Heard has gone and let something slip ,when she said Depp was pushing her & pulling her hair.

Why did she act it out with hand gestures like she's the 'AGGRESSOR' . She also let slip and said who was really the one walking away to de escalate the fight, which must have been Depp .

But she says he pulled her back and grabbed her hair. But everything she describes, is like she's acting out the abuser's actions.

If I was re telling a fight of someone grabbing my hair,I would not use the hand gestures she used.

Because she's trying to describe what HE did?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Because she's trying to describe what HE did?

If you described someone pulling your hair what gesture do you use? . Plus she let slip and said he was the one walking away. But made out she was trying to get away from him. Contradictions.