[Parmy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Because Heard & her sister & friends never got high or drunk , and never got angry and smashed anything .... sure Jan.

I dont know, I ain't seen them on video yet.

[user104658]

Posting again with some quotes since I don't think people always follow links, though on this I think you should, the whole article is brilliant and important.

Around the third or fourth time I logged into Twitter to find “#AmberHeardIsAPsychopath” at the top of the trending list, I realized that there was no longer any pretending that the Depp-Heard defamation trial was not a terrible, foreboding reflection of our culture’s worst impulses.

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The media has covered the degree to which this trial has served as a referendum on the Me Too movement and a siren call to domestic abusers.

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The narrative of the trial has been shaped in part by what appears to be, according to multiple researchers, an army of bots spreading rhetoric favorable to Depp.

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The work of those bots has been further amplified by “men’s rights activists” — the part of the far-right-leaning extremist “manosphere” that seems to have decided discrediting Amber Heard is the key to destroying every woman who accuses men of abuse or domestic violence.

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Trial memes — almost universally weighted against Heard — have taken over every corner of the internet, from TikTok to Twitch to Etsy.

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Totally unrelated accounts seem to have given themselves over to full-time Depp-Heard trial mockery, to the point where the actual substance of the testimony seems completely irrelevant beside the need to mine the proceedings for entertainment. Sure, Amber Heard cried while on the stand, but did you see how ridiculous she looked while doing it?

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At what point before the bot armies and men’s rights activists poisoned the well of discourse around this trial could a reasonable assessment of the evidence and the facts have been made? Did that point ever exist?

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the white supremacist alt-right movement has a long history of memeifying everything they want to normalize and legitimize, and keep in the forefront of your mind that the alt-right latched onto this case as its bulwark long before fandom and the internet at large did.

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Again and again over the course of this trial, basic human empathy seems to have completely flown out the window. More than that, nuance feels impossible, and there doesn’t seem to be room for even the reality of the situation.

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They do not seem to matter to people who would normally care about facts, truth, and nuance. They do not seem to matter to the tabloid media gleefully reporting on every aspect of this case. They do not seem to matter to the TikTok creators who seize every chance to parody

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The facts do not seem to matter to any of the people who have gleefully latched on to the image of Heard as a manipulative villain, as if she split her own lip, punched her own face, and pulled out clumps of her own hair.

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This trial, which amounts to a simple yes/no question over whether Heard had the right to call herself a victim of domestic abuse in a single sentence from that 2018 opinion piece, has somehow united far-right misogynists with middle-of-the-road liberals and geeky progressive fandom acolytes of Depp.

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People who have spent the last decade hashtagging #believewomen, fighting online harassment campaigns, and, especially, resisting white male supremacy have, over the course of this trial, crawled into bed with the vilest kinds of internet refuse

https://www.vox.com/culture/23131538...CbAZkE69YXlP54

Where are the usual "champions of morality" on this? Conspicuously ****ing absent. Playing right into the toxic culture that's rapidly sweeping internet culture and will, inevitably, spill over into the mainstream narrative soon enough, as it's designed to.

Here's the entire closing paragraphs. Honestly people should read & think about them.

There’s no coming back from this. The actual trial verdict is all but irrelevant now. It’s not just that Amber Heard will forever be an imperfect accuser whose own volatile history was used to help destroy a revelatory movement in Me Too. It’s that there will be other Amber Heards, and many of them will be marginalized, with far fewer resources to withstand this onslaught of hate.

It’s not a coincidence that this spectacle is playing out against a backdrop of perpetually escalating racist violence and the rapid erosion of decades of human rights for women, queer, and trans people. The Depp-Heard trial has just trained millions of people to discard their own empathy, their own rational judgment, in exchange for the gleeful mockery, rejection, and belittlement of a woman making herself vulnerable in public. If you don’t think that training will be weaponized against vulnerable targets, you haven’t been paying attention.

[ThomasC]

Camille is astounding to watch. Ridiculously good at her job.

I can't quite believe that Amber hasn't donated the 7 million to the two charities she said she would from the 7 million divorce pay out.

Disgusting human being who seems to have been after his money.

She has perjured herself as she said during the UK court case that she had donated 7 million to charity. She also said on US TV programme she had donated 7 million.

She hasn't donated a single penny to this day!!! Her excuse, she couldn't because Johnny was sueing her. She received the 7 million and Johnny didn't sue until 13 months later and she just sat on that money.

Her current excuse, she said she has pledged the money and that pledging the money and donating the money are the same thing.

Un****ing believable. Do not believe a word that comes out her filthy, disgusting mouth.

[bots]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Camille is astounding to watch. Ridiculously good at her job.

I can't quite believe that Amber hasn't donated the 7 million to the two charities she said she would from the 7 million divorce pay out.

Disgusting human being who seems to have been after his money.

She has perjured herself as she said during the UK court case that she had donated 7 million to charity. She also said on US TV programme she had donated 7 million.

She hasn't donated a single penny to this day!!! Her excuse, she couldn't because Johnny was sueing her. She received the 7 million and Johnny didn't sue until 13 months later and she just sat on that money.

Her current excuse, she said she has pledged the money and that pledging the money and donating the money are the same thing.

Un****ing believable. Do not believe a word that comes out her filthy, disgusting mouth.

have you read what you have just written? The hate you project toward someone you don't know is insane. You have no idea what their financial arrangements were or the timing of any payments, and yet you are happy to spout hate toward her. Seriously, it's not normal

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

have you read what you have just written? The hate you project toward someone you don't know is insane. You have no idea what their financial arrangements were or the timing of any payments, and yet you are happy to spout hate toward her. Seriously, it's not normal

It's actually disturbing reading a lot of these opinions, online in general. What stands out to me as well is along with articles that are posted the pictures they choose to post of AH and JD

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Camille is astounding to watch. Ridiculously good at her job.

I can't quite believe that Amber hasn't donated the 7 million to the two charities she said she would from the 7 million divorce pay out.

Disgusting human being who seems to have been after his money.

She has perjured herself as she said during the UK court case that she had donated 7 million to charity. She also said on US TV programme she had donated 7 million.

She hasn't donated a single penny to this day!!! Her excuse, she couldn't because Johnny was sueing her. She received the 7 million and Johnny didn't sue until 13 months later and she just sat on that money.

Her current excuse, she said she has pledged the money and that pledging the money and donating the money are the same thing.

Un****ing believable. Do not believe a word that comes out her filthy, disgusting mouth.

The fact that she hasn’t made that donation as promised just emphasises that her word or take on events simply cannot be trusted


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[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

have you read what you have just written? The hate you project toward someone you don't know is insane. You have no idea what their financial arrangements were or the timing of any payments, and yet you are happy to spout hate toward her. Seriously, it's not normal

Yes I have and I stand by what I have said.

Have you watched any of the trial?

That was the financial agreement! Where video is shown on two occasions where she says she has donated the money, but then says she has pledged it and says she hasn't donated it yet even though she lied about that.

Facts are facts from her own mouth! I've not just made it up, I've watched it and the evidence.

I have called her disgusting and filthy because of what has come out of her own mouth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wWOdSQsMcOA

Sorry if it offends you that I find someone who would be so manipulative and lie about such things disgusting

And I don't hate her, I don't know her,I hate what she has done

There were no timings of payments as she hasn't made any. There were timings of when the divorce money was paid and she was paid the full 7millon.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Yes I have and I stand by what I have said.

Have you watched any of the trial?

That was the financial agreement! Where video is shown on two occasions where she says she has donated the money, but then says she has pledged it and says she hasn't donated it yet even though she lied about that.

Facts are facts from her own mouth! I've not just made it up, I've watched it and the evidence.

I have called her disgusting and filthy because of what has come out of her own mouth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wWOdSQsMcOA

Sorry if it offends you that I find someone who would be so manipulative and lie about such things disgusting

The true facts are..she calls pledged and donated the same thing..the court cant dispute that, they would have to prove she didnt..so we can only take her word for that..so it has to be believed as there is no evidence to refute it.

[Parmy]

Still think this would be different if jim davidson was the male.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The true facts are..she calls pledged and donated the same thing..the court cant dispute that, they would have to prove she didnt..so we can only take her word for that..so it has to be believed as there is no evidence to refute it.

Right so I am going to pledge to pay all my bills, but I'm not actually going to pay them. Funny how on two occasions she has said she 'donated' the money and yet neither of the charities have seen a penny.

The court can dispute it, they're two words that have two completely different meanings.

[user104658]

What she has or hasn’t donated or pledges to anyone has literally zero bearing on this court case. Camille sure is “outstanding”… at continuing a massive smear campaign.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The true facts are..she calls pledged and donated the same thing..the court cant dispute that, they would have to prove she didnt..so we can only take her word for that..so it has to be believed as there is no evidence to refute it.

They've proved it already. She said herself that still to this day she has not donated any money to the two charities.

The charities also gave evidence or someone along those lines who also confirmed this and said the only money received was from Elon Musk on behalf of Amber Heard (bf at the time), but that none of amber's divorce money as gone to the charities.

So why say on the UK court case and on TV that she had donated 7 million to charity unless it was to make herself look good.

She's lost any shred of credibility she did have.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

What she has or hasn’t donated or pledges to anyone has literally zero bearing on this court case. Camille sure is “outstanding”… at continuing a massive smear campaign.

We it does have a bearing on the matter as on my humble opinion - as if she can’t be trusted on such a massive , massive thing like that donation then she wouldn’t think twice about lying or bending the truth


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[ThomasC]

She had 13 months with that money before Johnny sued her.

Her reason for not donating was because she couldn't because he was sueing her.

I smell so much bull**** it's unreal lol.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The fact that she hasn’t made that donation as promised just emphasises that her word or take on events simply cannot be trusted


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Yeah it doesn't do her any favours at all.

I don't understand her reasoning other than wanting to look good and wanting the money.

She said she didn't want anything off Johnny. Really!!!?

Facts are facts.

The abuse is different, it's his word against hers, but there's more holes in her story of events than a sieve.

All the pictures she took which conveniently didn't show herself on most. The pictures of her at events following alleged abuse with not a mark to show (yeah they were covered with makeup apparently), no medical reports. I think there might have been one, but the Dr noted no injuries after she went to see the Dr as she thought she might have concussion following alleged abuse. All the people who saw Amber and didn't notice any marks. There was one where had a bust lip and every time she opened her mouth it would bleed, but there's picture stills of her on the late late show with her mouth wide open and no sign of any bust lip.

Audio recordings I've listening to as well are consistent with her diagnosis of histrionic personality disorder and BPD. She sounded so manic and desperate to lose Johnny. Him pleading with her to leave him alone....then there's all the texts she sent him, one after another as he wouldn't respond.

I'm viewing it all from an objective standpoint too and making an opinion based on what I've seen from the trial. I didn't even know who Amber Heard was before this trial and I've never been a fan of Johnny Depp either

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

She had 13 months with that money before Johnny sued her.

Her reason for not donating was because she couldn't because he was sueing her.

I smell so much bull**** it's unreal lol.

She wanted to keep the money.
Pledge and donate according to her is the same thing

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She wanted to keep the money.
Pledge and donate according to her is the same thing

Yep, but wasn't backwards in coming forwards on the two evidenced clips of her saying she had 'donated' 7 million.

Good god, I didn't know I could actually pledge all my money. Why have I wasted all my money these 31 years

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Yep, but wasn't backwards in coming forwards on the two evidenced clips of her saying she had 'donated' 7 million.

Good god, I didn't know I could actually pledge all my money. Why have I wasted all my money these 31 years

I'm going to pledge my rent. See what my landlord says

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm going to pledge my rent. See what my landlord says

Yeah just say " I pledge thee" but never pay lol. Insane how Heard is classing both 'pledge' & 'donate' as the same thing.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm going to pledge my rent. See what my landlord says

Well you're not going to donate your rent either, are you?

[Christmas Lights]

Whether people think the charity is relevant or not , AH loses yet more credibility as she can never be honest and she's not reliable. Why did she lie about donating the money?!. Why not tell the truth and say something like " I haven't donated it yet ". But she kept repeating 'pledge' and ' donate ' , like they're identical.

And she had the nerve to blame JD aswell for suing her. Like that's delayed her charity plans, when she's had over a year to donate the money. But She never wanted to , because she wanted the money for herself, that is so obvious.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well you're not going to donate your rent either, are you?

No, you'd just pledge it meaning you'll pay it later but then never pay it.

Seems to have worked for Amber so far.

Then you'll just act dumb and say you paid your rent, but then when the landlord questions you, you back track and say you pledged, but still don't pay.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

No, you'd just pledge it meaning you'll pay it later but then never pay it.



Seems to have worked for Amber so far.



Then you'll just act dumb and say you paid your rent, but then when the landlord questions you, you back track and say you pledged, but still don't pay.

No you pay your rent or you get evicted. You're not paying your landlord out if the goodness of your heart

[bots]

i just find this thread incredulous tbh. How people can attack the character of a woman relentlessly, who has clearly suffered is beyond me. I bet not one of you has experienced abuse in your own lives, if you had, you would have a different view, i'm sure

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i just find this thread incredulous tbh. How people can attack the character of a woman relentlessly, who has clearly suffered is beyond me. I bet not one of you has experienced abuse in your own lives, if you had, you would have a different view, i'm sure

It's disgusting, I'm not even a "fan" of AH, this hatchet job on her is out of control though. I hope it doesn't turn out like a Caroline Flack situation actually