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Old 28-06-2022, 05:04 PM #26
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Liam can say what he likes, but im the same as Kaz on this one. If you find entertainment in watching a defenceless animal being tortured to death then i really don't have any sympathy whatsoever. Children on the other hand is different, they don't have a choice, their parents take them along. Children dying is tragic, anyone will agree with that. But as for the adults, meh.
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Today, I pulled up Beside two donkeys
Got out and gave one a head rub while the other one looked over at me

I love donkeys.


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Today, I pulled up Beside two donkeys
Got out and gave one a head rub while the other one looked over at me

I love donkeys.
I've become a lot more confident around animals lately. There is a really nice family friendly farm near me and I get to stroke and feed the goats, sheep, cows and pigs and it's the most comforting thing they are all so cute. So I hate anyone that would want to see animals tortured
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Imagine not caring that people die in a tragic accident because they like something you don’t
I mean it's not like they're fans of the Game of Thrones Season 8 finale or into frisbee golf... they're spectating an evenet that involves an animal being tortured for fun. Like I said early in the thread I do have sympathy, especially for their families, and especially when children are involved. It's just not really to paint it as people "just enjoying an innocent activity" - not only is it morally questionable, it's CLEARLY dangerous, even without the risk of an accident like this ... it's people running around deliberately enraging very dangerous animals. Madness to think that it could ever be a safe family event.

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One of the dead was a baby
Really tragic, taking young children and babies along to an event like this is just insane to be honest.
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Better still arista dont make bull fighting rings at all.
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Seems strange to have no sympathy as if being a bullfighting spectator is the only aspect of their personality, never mind the fact they would also be parents, children, siblings etc to other people and might also have done a lot of good in their lives
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Plus people are products of their upbringing and their environment. If you grow up in a town where bullfighting is still seen as an art form and have parents who instil that then you're going to have a very different view than someone in the UK where its never existed and seems alien. Always best not to be too judgey imo..

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Plus people are products of their upbringing and their environment. If you grow up in a town where bullfighting is still seen as an art form and have parents who instil that then you're going to have a very different view than someone in the UK where its never existed and seems alien. Always best not to be too judgey imo..
yes definitely. I don't like it and think it's a terribly cruel form of entertainment but people could judge meat eaters in the same way if they came from a culture that were all vegetarians for example
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yes definitely. I don't like it and think it's a terribly cruel form of entertainment but people could judge meat eaters in the same way if they came from a culture that were all vegetarians for example
They could, but it's completely different when you're actively paying to watch an animal be tortured purely for 'entertainment'.
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Plus people are products of their upbringing and their environment. If you grow up in a town where bullfighting is still seen as an art form and have parents who instil that then you're going to have a very different view than someone in the UK where its never existed and seems alien. Always best not to be too judgey imo..

That’s an interesting point although why ANYONE would want to see a completely innocent creature tortured then killed bemuses me .. I’d feel the same if it was for food but this was for pure entertainment


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Plus people are products of their upbringing and their environment. If you grow up in a town where bullfighting is still seen as an art form and have parents who instil that then you're going to have a very different view than someone in the UK where its never existed and seems alien. Always best not to be too judgey imo..

Aye true...same goes for growing up in places where the builders are cowboys, injury or death through incompetence is to be expected.
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Plus people are products of their upbringing and their environment. If you grow up in a town where bullfighting is still seen as an art form and have parents who instil that then you're going to have a very different view than someone in the UK where its never existed and seems alien. Always best not to be too judgey imo..
It’s traditional acts masking cruelty
To give Sympathy or not is an individuals choice the same choice to go and watch animal’s Be tortured .
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