[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

There is no constitutional method to remove a prime minister, no-one in the country has that power and labour know it very well. All they have is a vote of no confidence in the government, not specifically the PM

Very True

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2116510.html


He does not want Johnson staying as a Care Taker

Hardly surprising




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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there is no constitutional method to remove a prime minister, no-one in the country has that power and labour know it very well. All they have is a vote of no confidence in the government, not specifically the PM

I think you'll find it could be possible the 1922 committee could find the way to ensure this disgraced PM goes near immediately.

This is what Labour is really pushing for from the newly elected 1922 committee to be elected tomorrow.
I think you'll find they CAN find the way IF they really want to.

They can and do have the greatest influence.
There are Conservative MPs who will be demanding him gone sooner rather than later.

If the 1922 committee don't alter by not holding a members vote for the new leader.
They'll need to look at all and other possible option.

[arista]

"you'll find it could be possible the 1922 committee could find the way to ensure this disgraced PM goes near immediately."


Joey that would be great

Raab the Deputy is not in the Race
and could move right in.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"you'll find it could be possible the 1922 committee could find the way to ensure this disgraced PM goes near immediately."


Joey that would be great

Raab the Deputy is not in the Race
and could move right in.

Yes, I agree.
That's what Labour is hoping to pressure the committee to set out to do.

Raab as Deputy PM is already in place to act in the caretaking role.
It should have been explored on the day all was changing.

[bots]

the tories could just resign from Boris's cabinet again on mass, so that's one option, but i cant imagine a situation where they would give the power to a committee to decide who could and couldnt run the country

[Zizu]

I didn’t think this is a unique situation ..

Isn’t it normal for the PM to stay in situ for about 3 months after resignation to give the party time to choose a replacement ?


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the tories could just resign from Boris's cabinet again on mass, so that's one option, but i cant imagine a situation where they would give the power to a committee to decide who could and couldnt run the country

He's only a puppet PM now bots.
It's ludicrous he's left in place.

It's a powerful committee which acts on the will of the backbenchers.

It's even more ludicrous to have current, possibly even temporary Cabinet Ministers.
Now running to be leader and some setting out to tear up the policies of Johnson now.
It seems farcical and ridiculous.

This is NOT a normal dismissing of a leader.
It's that this leader Johnson has thrown out endless deceit and lies to parliament, his Ministers, his MPs and even worse to the whole of the UK.

He should have been gone over this weekend if the Cons hoped to get some decency and credibility back.

This is no way a normal end to a PM's premiership due to his absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He's only a puppet PM now bots.
It's ludicrous he's left in place.

It's a powerful committee which acts on the will of the backbenchers.

It's even more ludicrous to have current, possibly even temporary Cabinet Ministers.
Now running to be leader and some setting out to year up the policies of Johnson now.
It seems farcical and ridiculous.

This is NOT a normal dismissing of a leader.
It's that this leader Johnson has thrown out endless deceit and lies to parliament, his Ministers, his MPs and even worse to the whole of the UK.

He should have been gone over this weekend if the Cons hoped to get some decency and credibility back.

This is no way a normal end to a PM's premiership due to his absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

What has he actually done that is so disgraceful , specifically ?


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What has he actually done that is so disgraceful , specifically ?


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With full respect if you can't see that.
It's pointless me explaining it.
I'll try a bit though.

His Cabinet resigned because of him sending them out to the media after deceiving them.
He's broken his own laws he dictated to and inflicted on the whole Country.
Just 2 for starters.

His backbenchers were demanding a new vote of no confidence in him.
Which was clearly going to be a massive negative to him.

The facts now really speak for themselves to I'd say most people actually.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

With full respect if you can't see that.
It's pointless me explaining it.
I'll try a bit though.

His Cabinet resigned because of him sending them out to the media after deceiving them.
He's broken his own laws he dictated to and inflicted on the whole Country.
Just 2 for starters.

His backbenchers were demanding a new vote of no confidence in him.
Which was clearly going to be a massive negative to him.

The facts now really speak for themselves to I'd say most people actually.

As I understand things , most of his detractors were remainers ... the rest presumably just followed to save face and save their own skins - not wanting to be seen to be loyal to Boris ...

Then when they were asked afterwards who they would like to be PM not a single one of them had the courage to put a name forward as they were all keeping their cards close to their chests ( self preservation) ..

So what specifically do you find so abhorrent about Boris .. that wouldn’t apply to just about every politician you care to name ....

I saw a photo of Boris having a sandwich in a huge garden but there’s a video of Starmer knocking back a beer in a tiny room full of people ..


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[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

With full respect if you can't see that.
It's pointless me explaining it.
I'll try a bit though.

His Cabinet resigned because of him sending them out to the media after deceiving them.
He's broken his own laws he dictated to and inflicted on the whole Country.
Just 2 for starters.

His backbenchers were demanding a new vote of no confidence in him.
Which was clearly going to be a massive negative to him.

The facts now really speak for themselves to I'd say most people actually.

Bunch of out for themselves back stabbers. So Tory

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

As I understand things , most of his detractors were remainers ... the rest presumably just followed to save face and save their own skins - not wanting to be seen to be loyal to Boris ...

Then when they were asked afterwards who they would like to be PM not a single one of them had the courage to put a name forward as they were all keeping their cards close to their chests ( self preservation) ..

So what specifically do you find so abhorrent about Boris .. that wouldn’t apply to just about every politician you care to name ....

I saw a photo of Boris having a sandwich in a huge garden but there’s a video of Starmer knocking back a beer in a tiny room full of people ..


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I don't know of a single PM who.while in office has been found to have broken the law.
His own law too.

Johnson relaxed the covid rules in April/May 2021 in order to allow campaigning work in the Council, mayoral and Hartlepool by election/s too.
Johnson broke his laws in 2020 during the intense and rigid rules HE laid down for everyone in the Country.
He's a serial political deceiver, liar and a lawbreaker too.

If I was to list all the things I consider bad about Johnson.
I'd be making my.longest ever post on tibb.
So I'll pass on that.

I appreciate you like and support him.
I'll never understand why, just as it seems you don't understand those who don't like or don't support him.

I've NEVER liked him and wouldn't ever have trusted him with power.
My hand is up that I'm biased against him.
I think for his deceit and lies and lawbreaking, for me he is the worst ever PM the UK has had.

However I appreciate of course you see him differently and that of course is fine for you.

[bots]

Everyone knew exactly what they were getting with Boris, but they still voted him leader and then huge swathes of brexit supporters gave him a massive majority. All this crap about Javid and Sunak seeing the light is nonsense

The thing is, Boris wont go quietly into the night. He will interfere as much as he can and he never actually said he was resigning, so I don't think this is over yet at all

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Everyone knew exactly what they were getting with Boris, but they still voted him leader and then huge swathes of brexit supporters gave him a massive majority. All this crap about Javid and Sunak seeing the light is nonsense

The thing is, Boris wont go quietly into the night. He will interfere as much as he can and he never actually said he was resigning, so I don't think this is over yet at all

I fear you could be worryingly right here.
Which is why it should have been he was ...'made in sorts'... to go right away.

You have raised a possible strong point there.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't know of a single PM who.while in office has been found to have broken the law.
His own law too.

Johnson relaxed the covid rules in April/May 2021 in order to allow campaigning work in the Council, mayoral and Hartlepool by election/s too.
Johnson broke his laws in 2020 during the intense and rigid rules HE laid down for everyone in the Country.
He's a serial political deceiver, liar and a lawbreaker too.

If I was to list all the things I consider bad about Johnson.
I'd be making my.longest ever post on tibb.
So I'll pass on that.

I appreciate you like and support him.
I'll never understand why, just as it seems you don't understand those who don't like or don't support him.

I've NEVER liked him and wouldn't ever have trusted him with power.
My hand is up that I'm biased against him.
I think for his deceit and lies and lawbreaking, for me he is the worst ever PM the UK has had.

However I appreciate of course you see him differently and that of course is fine for you.

No worries ..

I certainly wouldn’t want to fall out over a bladdy politician !!




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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Everyone knew exactly what they were getting with Boris, but they still voted him leader and then huge swathes of brexit supporters gave him a massive majority. All this crap about Javid and Sunak seeing the light is nonsense

The thing is, Boris wont go quietly into the night. He will interfere as much as he can and he never actually said he was resigning, so I don't think this is over yet at all

A tiny part of me wonders what WOULD happen if hundreds of thousands of Boris supporters actually did go down to London on masse to protest at the way he’s been ousted .. there has been talk about this .


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[Liam-]

I mean, if those people want to make fools of themselves by protesting the ‘ousting’ of a man who knowingly promoted an admitted sex pest through the ranks of the party, then let them knock themselves out if that’s the hill they want to die on

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I mean, if those people want to make fools of themselves by protesting the ‘ousting’ of a man who knowingly promoted an admitted sex pest through the ranks of the party, then let them knock themselves out if that’s the hill they want to die on

They interviewed a group of them the other night on Sky - they all looked well over 50 and were delighted that Boris delivered Brexit and feel that there voice / vote / opinion is being discounted

One guy actually said something like .. “ 13 million of us voted for Boris .. how dare they just force him out of office ! “


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[arista]

Starmer is Now Live SkyNewsHD



Gateshead

[arista]

Live taking Starmer Questions


BBC attacking him
first question


Liz Bates SkyNewsHD asks him about Rishi
should they ban him as he was fined etc.

Starmer says yes

[arista]

Starmer has a Point
as Conservative Tom would not say
how he will fund the Tax Cuts.


He has Finished
once again loads of Press missing.

Starmer looks on his list
says "Liz Bates"

Liz says I spoke to you


Starmer then said, sorry
and left.


Only on SkyNewsHD

GBNewsHD showed half of it

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Starmer has a Point
as Conservative Tom would not say
how he will fund the Tax Cuts.


He has Finished
once again loads of Press missing.

Starmer looks on his list
says "Liz Bates"

Liz says I spoke to you


Starmer then said, sorry
and left.


Only on SkyNewsHD

GBNewsHD showed half of it

Is he losing his grip already ?




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[arista]

Labour MP Live was on the Green


Smiling
She said call a General Election


Rachel Reeves MP




BBCnewsHD

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Is he losing his grip already ?

No, but he needs his Manager
to check what press are Present,

Just before he starts



2nd Time Starmer calling names
of Papers and TV Professionals

NOT THERE,



Liz Bates said School children
took the empty seats