[Redway]

It goes without saying that males of old (at least) regularly had sex. with other men (sometimes teenaged boys, which by today’s standards is very questionable indeed but that’s not really the point) and there’s a plethora of research that’s kind of been conducted since then linking those ancient African/Greek/Roman practices with modern sexuality and how people (males and females alike) are more fluid sexuality-wise in general than is usually admitted in the general public. Personally I have my reservations but I do feel like more people than we tend to think of are indeed sexually-fluid (most people obviously have a stronger affinity for one gender over the other, usually the opposite, but one thing I’ve learnt over the past few years is that nothing’s ever really 100% black-and-white). Do you think sexuality as we see it today is too rigid or are the vast majority of people truly heterosexual after all?

[Liam-]

No

[Niamh.]

What you describe in your OP is men in power taking advantage of boys, that's not sexual fluidity, it's sexual abuse, no different from sexual abuse of children and young teenagers within the Catholic Church for example.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What you describe in your OP is men in power taking advantage of boys, that's not sexual fluidity, it's sexual abuse, no different from sexual abuse of children and young teenagers within the Catholic Church for example.

exactly

[UserSince2005]

No, people know their sexuality for certain once they have experienced me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

No, people know they sexuality for certain once they have experienced me.

Lesbian?

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Lesbian?

don't fool yourself

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

don't fool yourself

[GoldHeart]

I think there's more openess in sexuality,but someone who fooled around in their younger years might still class themselves as straight today & vice versa.

As for old Roman & Greek cultures, they just all seemed horny . Especially in Roman times with all the orgies . It seemed anything went back then ,no boundaries.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What you describe in your OP is men in power taking advantage of boys, that's not sexual fluidity, it's sexual abuse, no different from sexual abuse of children and young teenagers within the Catholic Church for example.

That was just a sordid example I just had to use for the most contextual background. I definitely don’t come anywhere near close to condoning that kind of foolishness per se but when you think about it it does kind of hone home how free people of ancient times kind of appeared to be when it came to sex. (for good and bad). If you know what I mean.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think there's more openess in sexuality,but someone who fooled around in their younger years might still class themselves as straight today & vice versa.

As for old Roman & Greek cultures, they just all seemed horny . Especially in Roman times with all the orgies . It seemed anything went back then ,no boundaries.

But the thing is I don’t think any lad/man would experiment with another male (even if it was just a teenage/college thing) if there wasn’t some sort of inherent attraction. They might repress it as the years go on and end up identifying as exclusively-heterosexual but I just feel like if you actually bum/get bummed by another guy there’s more to your sexuality. Blowjobs I don’t really count like that because I know it’s just a common thing for lads to want to suck each other off out of curiosity more than anything else and that doesn’t tend to go anywhere.

[Cherie]

I can't think of anything worse than getting it on with a woman

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

That was just a sordid example I just had to use for the most contextual background. I definitely don’t come anywhere near close to condoning that kind of foolishness per se but when you think about it it does kind of hone home how free people of ancient times kind of appeared to be when it came to sex. (for good and bad). If you know what I mean.

Well yeah but they were "free" to do a lot of things, like rape, murder, colonizing, torture......

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I can't think of anything worse than getting it on with a woman

Snap

[Redway]

Imagine how this thread would pan out if good-ol. lostalex was here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I can't think of anything worse than getting it on with a woman

especially the ones with a penis

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Lesbian?

Fabulously, witty and funny response !


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[thesheriff443]

I think drink can lower peoples inhibitions

For me it’s a no

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Lesbian?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I think drink can lower peoples inhibitions

For me it’s a no

True. Anyone can turn bi. after one-too-many tequila shots at the bar. At least for a minute.

[ThomasC]

Good topic.

To answer your title - no

However, gay for pay, horniness, experimentation. I think men are more open to it than women even if they deny it.

Obviously some men would just not go there at all, but there will be a lot that will. Some will think that as long as they're not receiving anal then they're still straight or if they're not blowing they're still straight.

I just say, do what you want and forget the label.

I use a particular app a lot to know that a lot of 'straight' men look for gay sex.

[ThomasC]

There's something hot about ****ing a straight bloke too, like massively hot. Lol

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I think drink can lower peoples inhibitions

For me it’s a no

don't tell lies

You're always flirting with me you little minx

[ThomasC]

I turned Jordan gay.

True story.

He's now my beautiful friend. We'd probably be fwb if we met in real life.

[Oliver_W]

Nah, the overwhelming majority of people are straight.

Having a (wo/)man crush or experimenting doesn't change one's sexuality as a whole.

Originally Posted by Redway

That was just a sordid example I just had to use for the most contextual background. I definitely don’t come anywhere near close to condoning that kind of foolishness per se but when you think about it it does kind of hone home how free people of ancient times kind of appeared to be when it came to sex. (for good and bad). If you know what I mean.

I get what you're saying, but viewing those acts through a modern lens doesn't really work. The men raping the boys wasn't what we'd perceive as a homosexual act, the men (in most cases) weren't attracted to other males in general or the boys they were raping; as Niamh said it was an act of asserting power more than anything reciprocal or "romantic".

If anything it was probably closer to "prison gay", with the culture's social seclusion of women and delayed marriages.