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02-08-2022, 06:37 PM | #1 | |||
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Jeremy Corbyn condemns UK decision to send weapons to Ukraine and the fact
'Russian soldiers are dying' as he calls for a peace deal on pro-Assad Middle East TV channel
Jeremy Corbyn has criticised the UK's decision to send military aid to Ukraine, accusing the West of 'prolonging and exaggerating' Russia's war. The ex-Labour leader, who infamously refused to blame Russia for the Salisbury poisoning in 2018, said leaders should instead force a peace deal between the pair - turning to the African Union and Arab League, including Syria, for mediation. He also bemoaned the fact that 'Ukrainians are dying... and Russian soldiers are dying' in an interview with a pro-Assad TV channel, whilst condemning NATO expansion for causing 'greater strain and greater stress.' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Ukraine.html Top comment:And thats why you should never vote Labour Last edited by LeatherTrumpet; 03-08-2022 at 07:23 AM. |
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02-08-2022, 06:49 PM | #2 | |||
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When he's nothing to do with power but the mail still lies about him
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02-08-2022, 06:57 PM | #3 | |||
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02-08-2022, 07:00 PM | #4 | |||
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He isn't at all and you know this. He's the only UK politician to have pointed out what Putin was from the beginning, whilst Blair had him for state visits, and he now funds tories.
Post the vid of this interview so tibb can see how well the article corresponds with what he actually says, because we both know the video exists, and I've seen it.
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02-08-2022, 07:02 PM | #5 | |||
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02-08-2022, 07:03 PM | #6 | ||
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Why should it mean people shouldn't vote Labour.
I'll vote and support Labour thank you very much. Corbyn isn't even in Labour. I vote for a Party and support it for its policies, particularly to the NHS and how it sees the poorest, most vulnerable , sick and disabled. So for me that is still the Labour party as it's been for me since 2012. |
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02-08-2022, 07:08 PM | #7 | |||
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Imagine having the video evidence to nail him and you can't be bothered
Not my thread, so carry on comrade. Oh, oops, can't believe I let that slip out
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02-08-2022, 07:08 PM | #8 | |||
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02-08-2022, 07:19 PM | #9 | |||
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02-08-2022, 07:21 PM | #10 | |||
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I'm good, I saw the interview yesterday, so I don't need to read the lies. Appreciate the offer though.
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02-08-2022, 07:26 PM | #11 | ||
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I know we do. Obviously detailed policies need to be detailed publicly however the conference will as always be debating them and more detail added. It's still near 2 years away from the election. NO opposition party issues detailed policies that far from an election. I know and wouldn't support a Party that didn't believe in the NHS and would make sure it was invested in and protected. As to his credit even Blair did from 1997. There's no way Labour will not protect the NHS. However, I know Labour under any leader, would never let remain policies like what the coalition brought in which were even degrading and cruel to the sick and disabled. I know that from the endless cases there has been of wrongful removal of support and benefits to them. People can moan at Labour and think there's another way but they're fooling themselves. Anyone who dislikes this Con government, who then in this pathetic voting system we have, don't support Labour then the continuation of an extreme Con government is what they'll get. So for me the protection of the NHS, and the ending of the humiliating treatment of the sick and disabled is what turned me to Labour in 2012 and has me still supporting Labour in those aims still. I dislike Starmer and didn't vote for him as leader. However, when his policies are all finalised ready for the general election. That protection of the NHS and more compassion to the sick and disabled will still have me strongly for Labour. Because also in this dinosaur of an electoral system, the ONE and ONLY way to ensure this shambles of a Con govt is out, is to vote Labour. Any votes to anyone else will only help enable the Cons to continue their vindictiveness and heartlessness. That's not for me, no way thank you. Last edited by joeysteele; 02-08-2022 at 07:28 PM. |
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02-08-2022, 07:31 PM | #12 | |||
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But I don't have much faith in labour, but it will help alot if they get a new leader & get rid of Starmer as he might aswell be a Tory . But I guess we'll see what happens in 2 years time. |
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02-08-2022, 07:32 PM | #13 | |||
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The tories believe in the NHS, too, doesn't mean they'll do anything to help it, and Streeting has been pushing for more private sector involvement. If you vote labour to get tories out, I fully support that, but if you vote for them thinking they have any interest in anything but being in power themselves, then I'm afraid you're setting yourself up for a fall.
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02-08-2022, 07:32 PM | #14 | |||
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Jeremy Corbyn has urged western countries to stop arming Ukraine, and claimed he was
criticised over antisemitism because of his stance on Palestine, in a TV interview likely to underscore Keir Starmer’s determination not to readmit him to the Labour party. unity comrades unity https://www.theguardian.com/politics...arming-ukraine |
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02-08-2022, 07:33 PM | #15 | |||
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if starmer is following the new labour path, well, Blair was a consummate warmonger so there should be no worries there
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02-08-2022, 07:36 PM | #16 | |||
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The Labour MP Margaret Hodge condemned his remarks. She said: “To suggest our fight
against antisemitism on the left means that we are all part of a conspiracy to smear Corbyn is frankly absurd and of itself antisemitic. This consistent failure to understand and distinguish between our Jewish identity and the complex Middle East political issues is at the heart of why Jeremy continues to be outside the Labour party.” Guardian the guy is clearly out of control and mirroring his looney brother now |
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02-08-2022, 07:38 PM | #17 | |||
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“Pouring arms in isn’t going to bring about a solution, it’s only going to prolong and exaggerate this war,” Corbyn said. “We might be in for years and years of a war in Ukraine.”
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02-08-2022, 07:39 PM | #18 | |||
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Because then we'll end up with more people not voting atall which doesn't really help either, people go around saying stuff like " ewww they're all as bad as eachother" , but someone still has to win & get in the office. At the moment we still have some sort of democracy in place , people get to have a say & feel they've contributed whether they've angry or happy with the outcome . Atleast they can say they've had their voice. I've always said labour is the best of a bad bunch , they've always cared about the NHS . And I'm talking about labour as a party and NOT Starmer ,as he needs to go. But if he's still The leader of the party in 2 years then I don't have much hope. |
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02-08-2022, 07:40 PM | #19 | |||
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yes we should let the Russians kill them all and then it would be over
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02-08-2022, 07:47 PM | #20 | |||
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02-08-2022, 07:47 PM | #21 | ||
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You are not being fair there, sorry. Plus Rachel Reeves has a long record of wanting farness on welfare. There is NO way she will make the sick and disabled worse off and not given ALL the help they need. You just said before Labour had NO policies. Now you're presenting a distorted view of policy from a statement. Being tough doesn't mean being cruel as this lot have been. If you really do think the Cons believe in the NHS after the costly top down re-organisation promised to never happen from 2011. Those reforms STILL causing issues now. Well sorry, it's not me that's mistaken. I don't accept I'm setting myself up for a fall. I'd love another leader than Starmer. However in the main he has some really caring and more compassionate minded shadow Ministers. I'm happy to wholly support them. Last edited by joeysteele; 02-08-2022 at 07:49 PM. |
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02-08-2022, 07:51 PM | #22 | |||
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Starmers entire thing is to do things like the Tories, just a little less crap, he has no true vision or principle
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02-08-2022, 08:01 PM | #23 | |||
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The problem with this version of labour is that starmer had policies/beliefs he used to get elected, since then he's destroyed the inner mechanics, giving them complete control over the candidates making sure that labour will struggle to ever have any new left wing MP's. He's fought his own party, and abstained on when it came to voting on tory policies. Corbyn left £13m in the accounts despite taking over a pretty broke party. Starmer lost it. Corbyn made labour the party with the largest membership in Europe, Starmer has haemorrhaged hundreds of thousands of members. He's a smug, self-interested coward, with absolutely no intention of improving society if it doesn't involve keeping the right wing press on his side. I think believing in the NHS is easy. I'm more interested in what he wants to do about it. You're completely wrong about RR though, that is one issue I will not see your PoV. She's said too much publicly to not believe her.
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02-08-2022, 08:58 PM | #24 | ||
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She was shadow works and pensions minster for Miliband. I know she cares deeply for the sick and disabled. Right wing, good lord, I've been got at on here for being of the hard left. I supported near all the 2017 and 2019 manifestos of Corbyn. I'd nationalise gas, electricity, water and railways. I'd tax the richest more to help the poorest I don't support this governments immigration policies and think the Rwanda one obscene. Just for starters. I'm also a realist and for Labour to ever be able to do a single thing it first has to win an election. Then persuade as to the arguments. We lost the last 2 elections. Starmer is an awful leader, then I've never liked any Labour leader in my lifetime. John Smith the only one. |
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03-08-2022, 12:07 AM | #25 | |||
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