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Not-really - she did rub-hands with Mandela and in any case is a legend to be revered 2 25.00%
Not-really - she did rub-hands with Mandela and in any case is a legend to be revered
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She did enable lots-of colonial disruption - I understand the mixed feelings 2 25.00%
She did enable lots-of colonial disruption - I understand the mixed feelings
2 25.00%
^ but in appropriate moderation (someone’s death is nothing to celebrate) 2 25.00%
^ but in appropriate moderation (someone’s death is nothing to celebrate)
2 25.00%
Not sure/other 2 25.00%
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I agree with this and just to say as well, Nelson Mandela is mentioned in the options there, when he died there was plenty of people being disrespectful towards him and calling him a terrorist etc Speculation on my part of course but I'd wager that a lot of those people are the same ones who are now demanding no one has a bad word to say about the Queen/Monarchy etc

**I don't mean people on here, I mean in general/on social media
Personally speaking, people can say anything bad about whoever they want to, especially if the person in question has put themselves under public scrutiny.

However again with Mandela, it's very easy for those people that you're on about to call him a terrorist when they're not being treated like a piece of **** in their own country, and democracy wasn't really available to Mandela at the time.
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Its alot more complicated than just handing them back I am afraid, they should be ashamed of themselves for this simplification, no one wants war to break out again, its an issue that needs careful handling
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Excuse me, the most Northerly part of Ireland is in the Republic of Ireland
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Just a pet peeve of mine why people call it "Southern Ireland" I live in southern Ireland because I'm in Cork but Donegal is very much in the North and Dublin East etc
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Was the one whose sign also said "Fuck Imperialism" ? As I think having written swearwords constitutes a "breach of peace", at least in Scotland.
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I’m torn between options 2 and 3, there’s a lot of people who are more than entitled to not mourn someone that’s been so catastrophic to their life, and really I don’t think I (or anyone really) have a right to dictate to someone of that background how to react to the death of that person.

(So really I should’ve picked option 2, but I can see points for them both, but not in the first imo, they have a right to feel that way)
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I’m torn between options 2 and 3, there’s a lot of people who are more than entitled to not mourn someone that’s been so catastrophic to their life, and really I don’t think I (or anyone really) have a right to dictate to someone of that background how to react to the death of that person.

(So really I should’ve picked option 2, but I can see points for them both, but not in the first imo, they have a right to feel that way)
How has the Queen been catastrophic to people's lives?
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she cost 69p per person up 4p from last year?
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