[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The rich aren't hypocritical for not single-handedly solving the world's problems

I'm not saying they are I said I know she means well but it lacks empathy and experience so is a hollow statement. Its not a dig at Kate, I know she actually does mean what she says - unlike the politicians like Rishi Sunak who "sympathised" with the GBP over the fuel crisis and went home to his billionaire wife. Its not hypocritical but its empty sentiment in my opinion

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I'm not saying they are I said I know she means well but it lacks empathy and experience.

It does actually.
I agree.

[jet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I'm not saying they are I said I know she means well but it lacks empathy and experience so is a hollow statement.

Are you saying a rich person shouldn’t speak out for the poor to bring their plight the media attention and publicity which will help their cause? Only the poor should do so as they are the ones who are experiencing it?
I can’t agree with that. You don’t have to experience poverty to feel real empathy for those who are suffering from it, imo.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

Are you saying a rich person shouldn’t speak out for the poor to bring their plight the media attention and publicity which will help their cause? Only the poor should do so as they are the ones who are experiencing it?
I can’t agree with that. You don’t have to experience poverty to feel real empathy for those who are suffering from it, imo.

The media attention is firmly on the cost of living crisis Jet - Kate is not saying anything that we do not already know and so she is not really highlighting it. How will saying we need food banks help anyone's cause? We know that. We need solutions, not platitudes. And, I am not saying that it is down to the Royals to solve the crisis we are in, it really isn't for them but it seems hollow.

To have true empathy I do believe you have to have experienced something - you can have sympathy and feel for someone but to have the true definition of empathy you have to the ability to understand and share the feelings of another and if you haven't experienced true poverty how can you possibly understand what people go through trying to feed, clothe their families?

[jet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The media attention is firmly on the cost of living crisis Jet - Kate is not saying anything that we do not already know and so she is not really highlighting it. How will saying we need food banks help anyone's cause? We know that. We need solutions, not platitudes. And, I am not saying that it is down to the Royals to solve the crisis we are in, it really isn't for them but it seems hollow.

To have true empathy I do believe you have to have experienced something - you can have sympathy and feel for someone but to have the true definition of empathy you have to the ability to understand and share the feelings of another and if you haven't experienced true poverty how can you possibly understand what people go through trying to feed, clothe their families?

The publicity that Royals bring leads to a great surge in donations and offers of help. That’s the whole point.

Where people can donate:
https://www.trusselltrust.org/get-in...e/donate-food/

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/w...-child-poverty

Please everyone make a donation if you can.

[Cherie]

There are plenty rich people out there who got rich by accident of birth, anyone who has a good talent for singing, football, acting, some got rich by accident of birth no one says they don't deserve to speak out, I am sure Marcus Rashford isn't wearing Primark or driving around in a 20 year car when he speaks about poverty

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There are plenty rich people out there who got rich by accident of birth, anyone who has a good talent for singing, football, acting, some got rich by accident of birth no one says they don't deserve to speak out, I am sure Marcus Rashford isn't wearing Primark or driving around in a 20 year car when he speaks about poverty

To be fair though, Marcus Rashford has lived it. The estate where he was brought up is one of the most deprived in Manchester - he has experienced it first hand.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

To be fair though, Marcus Rashford has lived it. The estate where he was brought up is one of the most deprived in Manchester - he has experienced it first hand.

Kate had a pretty normal upbringing as well, maybe she wasn't particularly poor but her parents worked and she went to Uni at St Andrews so would have mixed with people from all backgrounds as did William

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There are plenty rich people out there who got rich by accident of birth, anyone who has a good talent for singing, football, acting, some got rich by accident of birth no one says they don't deserve to speak out, I am sure Marcus Rashford isn't wearing Primark or driving around in a 20 year car when he speaks about poverty

Difference being , Marcus Rashford wasn't born into wealth . Plus he's never abandoned his roots . He actually cares about the poor & people struggling. He can empathise as he was knows what it's like to be in that situation.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Difference being , Marcus Rashford wasn't born into wealth . Plus he's never abandoned his roots . He actually cares about the poor & people struggling. He can empathise as he was knows what it's like to be in that situation.

Kate wasn't born into wealth either, her family are pretty middle class as far as I am aware, he also has money through an accident of birth, i..e being a footballer, he enjoys the trappings of wealth no doubt and nobody would expect him to walk around in a hair shirt while speaking up about poverty

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I'm not saying they are I said I know she means well but it lacks empathy and experience so is a hollow statement.

Its not a hollow statement...its coming from someone who genuinely cares. The fact she has money is irrelevant. Diana used to go out and visit the homeless and give them support...she meant well but was that lacking empathy and experience ...its the total opposite.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Its not a hollow statement...its coming from someone who genuinely cares. The fact she has money is irrelevant. Diana used to go out and visit the homeless and give them support...she meant well but was that lacking empathy and experience ...its the total opposite.

Actually it IS a hollow statement, Kate has NEVER experienced any of it . Whereas Marcus knows exactly where these people are coming from, because he's been there himself. Yes he's successful & wealthy now ....but he's never forgotten & he's very much involved with charity & helping people.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Actually it IS a hollow statement, Kate has NEVER experienced any of it . Whereas Marcus knows exactly where these people are coming from, because he's been there himself. Yes he's successful & wealthy now ....but he's never forgotten & he's very much involved with charity & helping people.

But so what...what difference does it make. Is Marcus a better person because he knew what poverty was like??? Does that make him better than Kate Middleton??? Just because he has experienced it doesnt make him a better person. At the end of the day they are both doing a brilliant job. They are both involved with Charities and they are both helping people and raising awareness.