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Old 29-09-2022, 08:08 AM #1
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I'm not saying they are I said I know she means well but it lacks empathy and experience so is a hollow statement.
Are you saying a rich person shouldn’t speak out for the poor to bring their plight the media attention and publicity which will help their cause? Only the poor should do so as they are the ones who are experiencing it?
I can’t agree with that. You don’t have to experience poverty to feel real empathy for those who are suffering from it, imo.
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Are you saying a rich person shouldn’t speak out for the poor to bring their plight the media attention and publicity which will help their cause? Only the poor should do so as they are the ones who are experiencing it?
I can’t agree with that. You don’t have to experience poverty to feel real empathy for those who are suffering from it, imo.
The media attention is firmly on the cost of living crisis Jet - Kate is not saying anything that we do not already know and so she is not really highlighting it. How will saying we need food banks help anyone's cause? We know that. We need solutions, not platitudes. And, I am not saying that it is down to the Royals to solve the crisis we are in, it really isn't for them but it seems hollow.

To have true empathy I do believe you have to have experienced something - you can have sympathy and feel for someone but to have the true definition of empathy you have to the ability to understand and share the feelings of another and if you haven't experienced true poverty how can you possibly understand what people go through trying to feed, clothe their families?
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The media attention is firmly on the cost of living crisis Jet - Kate is not saying anything that we do not already know and so she is not really highlighting it. How will saying we need food banks help anyone's cause? We know that. We need solutions, not platitudes. And, I am not saying that it is down to the Royals to solve the crisis we are in, it really isn't for them but it seems hollow.

To have true empathy I do believe you have to have experienced something - you can have sympathy and feel for someone but to have the true definition of empathy you have to the ability to understand and share the feelings of another and if you haven't experienced true poverty how can you possibly understand what people go through trying to feed, clothe their families?
The publicity that Royals bring leads to a great surge in donations and offers of help. That’s the whole point.

Where people can donate:
https://www.trusselltrust.org/get-in...e/donate-food/

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/w...-child-poverty

Please everyone make a donation if you can.
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There are plenty rich people out there who got rich by accident of birth, anyone who has a good talent for singing, football, acting, some got rich by accident of birth no one says they don't deserve to speak out, I am sure Marcus Rashford isn't wearing Primark or driving around in a 20 year car when he speaks about poverty
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There are plenty rich people out there who got rich by accident of birth, anyone who has a good talent for singing, football, acting, some got rich by accident of birth no one says they don't deserve to speak out, I am sure Marcus Rashford isn't wearing Primark or driving around in a 20 year car when he speaks about poverty
To be fair though, Marcus Rashford has lived it. The estate where he was brought up is one of the most deprived in Manchester - he has experienced it first hand.
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To be fair though, Marcus Rashford has lived it. The estate where he was brought up is one of the most deprived in Manchester - he has experienced it first hand.
Kate had a pretty normal upbringing as well, maybe she wasn't particularly poor but her parents worked and she went to Uni at St Andrews so would have mixed with people from all backgrounds as did William
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Kate had a pretty normal upbringing as well, maybe she wasn't particularly poor but her parents worked and she went to Uni at St Andrews so would have mixed with people from all backgrounds as did William
I'm sorry but there is NO WAY Kate Middleton's background, is anything like Marcus Rashford's . You yourself said she WASN'T poor ,plus she had a very well off education.
The fact that she met William at one of the most expensive top notch universities ..St Andrews is classed as higher on scale than even Cambridge & Oxford , and those are pretty elite class . It's also pretty difficult to get into st Andrew's.

There is no way Kate & William were surrounded by anything , in their student days other than middle/ upper class people with wealth & a certain status out of touch from the rest of us . There is no way your average Joe ,from a council estate would be going to st Andrew's !!....come on let's be realistic.
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Kate had a pretty normal upbringing as well, maybe she wasn't particularly poor but her parents worked and she went to Uni at St Andrews so would have mixed with people from all backgrounds as did William
I worked with her father at the Airport...Kates mother was a stewardess. It was their business that bought them wealth by which time I think their children were early teens...so Kate did start her life in a humble background.
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There are plenty rich people out there who got rich by accident of birth, anyone who has a good talent for singing, football, acting, some got rich by accident of birth no one says they don't deserve to speak out, I am sure Marcus Rashford isn't wearing Primark or driving around in a 20 year car when he speaks about poverty
Difference being , Marcus Rashford wasn't born into wealth . Plus he's never abandoned his roots . He actually cares about the poor & people struggling. He can empathise as he was knows what it's like to be in that situation.
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Difference being , Marcus Rashford wasn't born into wealth . Plus he's never abandoned his roots . He actually cares about the poor & people struggling. He can empathise as he was knows what it's like to be in that situation.
Kate wasn't born into wealth either, her family are pretty middle class as far as I am aware, he also has money through an accident of birth, i..e being a footballer, he enjoys the trappings of wealth no doubt and nobody would expect him to walk around in a hair shirt while speaking up about poverty
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