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Cherie · 29-09-2022, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Not really what I said. I said they can't empathise truly if they have not lived it - they can sympathise but not empathise. The difference with Marcus is he has lived it so can empathise. He has also raised more than 20 million for charity that help child poverty so he is not just enjoying trappings of wealth, he gives an awful lot back.

I started by saying that it always seems hollow from those who have not experienced what they are talking about - that's it. I actually said I believe Kate truly means the sentiments and is coming from a good place but it seems a little hollow. That's it.

Is that actually true though? are you saying we can't emphatise with rape victims or domestic abuse or a child who has been abused because it is not our lived experience?

Cherie · 29-09-2022, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Marcus hasn't just spoke about it though, he's been really active in raising money and actually getting children fed

so you don't think Kate has raised awarenness?

Crimson Dynamo · 29-09-2022, 12:15 PM

If just 10,000 people gave £200 today to a foodbank then in one day

then 2 million pounds would have been raised

and all stemming from the generosity of the Princess Kate

Now that really is compassion in Action

AnnieK · 29-09-2022, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Is that actually true though? are you saying we can't emphatise with rape victims or domestic abuse or a child who has been abused because it is not our lived experience?

I believe it to be true. I can't empathise with a rape victim because i haven't experienced it. I can sympathise and feel truly sorry for what they been through but I have no idea real understanding of how that would make you feel

Doesn't mean I'm a bad person - but hand on heart I can't look at them and say "I know what you're going through" because I don't. I can say - "I'm sorry for what you are going through" - empathy / sympathy

Just my opinion

jet · 29-09-2022, 12:36 PM

This thread is nuts.

“How dare anyone who hasn't lived a dirt poor background show concern and support for those in poverty!” The patronising feckers!

Imo, as long as the person is doing it for the right reasons, are genuine and not doing it to seek attention and boost their own profile, then to me the extra injection of help and support a prominent and admired person brings to the charities coffers is a great thing.

I guess some would rather the charities lost out though! Listen to yourselves!

jet · 29-09-2022, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

I believe it to be true. I can't empathise with a rape victim because i haven't experienced it. I can sympathise and feel truly sorry for what they been through but I have no idea real understanding of how that would make you feel

Doesn't mean I'm a bad person - but hand on heart I can't look at them and say "I know what you're going through" because I don't. I can say - "I'm sorry for what you are going through" - empathy / sympathy

Just my opinion

You don't have to totally feel it to give up your time to visit and help out a charity or click on a donation button. You just have to care.

Cherie · 29-09-2022, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

I believe it to be true. I can't empathise with a rape victim because i haven't experienced it. I can sympathise and feel truly sorry for what they been through but I have no idea real understanding of how that would make you feel

Doesn't mean I'm a bad person - but hand on heart I can't look at them and say "I know what you're going through" because I don't. I can say - "I'm sorry for what you are going through" - empathy / sympathy

Just my opinion

We will have to agree to disagree on that one, I can imagine what it is like to win the lottery for instance I don't need to have won to know how it would make me feel

Cherie · 29-09-2022, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

I worked with her father at the Airport...Kates mother was a stewardess. It was their business that bought them wealth by which time I think their children were early teens...so Kate did start her life in a humble background.

Yeah I thought that was the case, thanks Rusti

jet · 29-09-2022, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

I worked with her father at the Airport...Kates mother was a stewardess. It was their business that bought them wealth by which time I think their children were early teens...so Kate did start her life in a humble background.

Yep, I believe that Kate's mother came from a family of miners and builders. Her parents worked very hard to build their successful business.

Niamh. · 29-09-2022, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

so you don't think Kate has raised awarenness?

Awareness of what? That poor people need food? Poor people exist? If you read those comments after the article you'll see people are very much aware!

AnnieK · 29-09-2022, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

This thread is nuts.

“How dare anyone who hasn't lived a dirt poor background show concern and support for those in poverty!” The patronising feckers!

Imo, as long as the person is doing it for the right reasons, are genuine and not doing it to seek attention and boost their own profile, then to me the extra injection of help and support a prominent and admired person brings to the charities coffers is a great thing.

I guess some would rather the charities lost out though! Listen to yourselves!

Not one person has said either of those comments. That is just literally putting words into people's mouths on this thread.

AnnieK · 29-09-2022, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

We will have to agree to disagree on that one, I can imagine what it is like to win the lottery for instance I don't need to have won to know how it would make me feel

Do you though? I honestly don't. I think it would make me happy but I don't know how that happiness will feel because I haven't ever won it

Niamh. · 29-09-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Do you though? I honestly don't. I think it would make me happy but I don't know how that happiness will feel because I haven't ever won it

I won €100 on a scratch card that my brother gave me for my birthday the other day (actually €108 over all but €100 on 1) I have to say it feels amazing

AnnieK · 29-09-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

You don't have to totally feel it to give up your time to visit and help out a charity or click on a donation button. You just have to care.

Again - who said you did have to feel it to donate? I am sure an awful lot of people, me included, make regular donations to charities that we feel strongly about. Don't understand your point there.

Crimson Dynamo · 29-09-2022, 01:07 PM

And note Rashford was conspicuous by his absence at that vital Welsh foodbank and being injured he had no excuse

AnnieK · 29-09-2022, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I won €100 on a scratch card that my brother gave me for my birthday the other day (actually €108 over all but €100 on 1) I have to say it feels amazing

I remember though Pyramid years ago on here saying she had won a significant amount of money - and she hated it. She felt it was cursed money and if she had the choice she would not have won it.

I would worry that I would feel proper paranoid if I won big - even if you keep it anonymous, I reckon if I suddenly swapped my car for a supercar and my house for a mansion people who click on

I'd be paranoid someone would try and kidnap my family or something

Obviously - talking millions there. I'd be splashing the cash if I won £100

AnnieK · 29-09-2022, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And note Rashford was conspicuous by his absence at that vital Welsh foodbank and being injured he had no excuse

He was probably at one in Manchester

Niamh. · 29-09-2022, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

I remember though Pyramid years ago on here saying she had won a significant amount of money - and she hated it. She felt it was cursed money and if she had the choice she would not have won it.

I would worry that I would feel proper paranoid if I won big - even if you keep it anonymous, I reckon if I suddenly swapped my car for a supercar and my house for a mansion people who click on

I'd be paranoid someone would try and kidnap my family or something

Obviously - talking millions there. I'd be splashing the cash if I won £100

I would move to Italy so no one would know the difference