[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That seems to have died off a bit, it definitely was very over used for a while though

I still personally see it popping up from time to time which can really grind my gears, because most of the time it's a man disagreeing with a woman on a topic in what would be deemed a normal debate on here.

For me though the term karen should only be used for entitled women who can't handle not getting what they want.

I am with you on women should be allowed to disagree with men on a topic without being called a karen.

Just to clarify a guy feeling entitled should be called a Richard.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I still personally see it popping up from time to time which can really grind my gears, because most of the time it's a man disagreeing with a woman on a topic in what would be deemed a normal debate on here.

For me though the term karen should only be used for entitled women who can't handle not getting what they want.

I am with you on women should be allowed to disagree with men on a topic without being called a karen.

Personally I don't think it should be used at all, why can't an entitled woman or man just be an entitled woman or man?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Personally I don't think it should be used at all, why can't an entitled woman or man just be an entitled woman or man?

Because we're in 2022, and people like to call each other names in 2022 because they're too stupid to know how to debate people.

[bots]

it's one of those terms that wouldnt be seen at all if the people using it took heed of their own rules on what terms shouldn't be used

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Because we're in 2022, and people like to call each other names in 2022 because they're too stupid to know how to debate people.

This is also true ,things become a trend these days.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Because we're in 2022, and people like to call each other names in 2022 because they're too stupid to know how to debate people.

Well that's about the truest sentence I've read in a very long time!

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Because we're in 2022, and people like to call each other names in 2022 because they're too stupid to know how to debate people.

I do see that trend tbh. Anything up for debate is shut down all too frequently with insults and attempts at dismissing the opposed argument.

I see it like this - "No, you are wrong"
But, if we look at it from this angle - "No, you are wrong"
Yeah but, what about - "WRONG"
Ok - "idiot"

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I would question what your definition of white is before you pick apart the word racist

Do Indians, Hausas and Congolese folk look pale to you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Because we're in 2022, and people like to call each other names in 2022 because they're too stupid to know how to debate people.

Youtube video

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I still personally see it popping up from time to time which can really grind my gears, because most of the time it's a man disagreeing with a woman on a topic in what would be deemed a normal debate on here.

For me though the term karen should only be used for entitled women who can't handle not getting what they want.

I am with you on women should be allowed to disagree with men on a topic without being called a karen.

Just to clarify a guy feeling entitled should be called a Richard.

There’s a bit of a thing circulating around the web. at the moment that they should be called Harley, Donald or Lewis. Not sure about the last-two (and I have black friends called Donald) but Harley’s an aptly-niche name and every single Harley I’ve met has been entitled, shockingly-stupid absolute scum of the Earth.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

I do see that trend tbh. Anything up for debate is shut down all too frequently with insults and attempts at dismissing the opposed argument.

I see it like this - "No, you are wrong"
But, if we look at it from this angle - "No, you are wrong"
Yeah but, what about - "WRONG"
Ok - "idiot"

Exactly.

And ironically your scenario isn't too amiss from what I've actually seen online on certain sites.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

This is also true ,things become a trend these days.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well that's about the truest sentence I've read in a very long time!

I also think one of the biggest problems is sides are not willing to reach a middle ground. They just cannot accept an opinion that may differ from theirs, when in reality it's perfectly reasonable.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Youtube video

He is bang on in that video.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

There’s a bit of a thing circulating around the web. at the moment that they should be called Harley, Donald or Lewis. Not sure about the last-two (and I have black friends called Donald) but Harley’s an aptly-niche name and every single Harley I’ve met has been entitled, shockingly-stupid absolute scum of the Earth.

I never knew that the name Harley had such a bad reputation.

Especially given the fact that Batman has such a lovable character called Harley Quinn.

Seriously though the name Harley has a bad rep?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Swan

I also think one of the biggest problems is sides are not willing to reach a middle ground. They just cannot accept an opinion that may differ from theirs, when in reality it's perfectly reasonable.

Yes definitely and also, people aren't allowed to disagree on one topic but still be friends (or it's a rarity at least) or get along. You're cast out of whatever group you "belonged" to if you don't follow the allowed opinions on everything. It's pretty sad to see actually. A lot of what's been named progressiveness these days is actually so regressive

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

This is also true ,things become a trend these days.

That's definitely the case.

Because who remembers when snowflake was a thing? I really hated that word by the end as it was being used on every topic, including criminal cases on websites.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I never knew that the name Harley had such a bad reputation.

Especially given the fact that Batman has such a lovable character called Harley Quinn.

Seriously though the name Harley has a bad rep?

Harley Quinn might’ve-been okay but outside of that there’s a whole motorcycling brand steeped in white supremacy (almost K.K.K.-esque) fronted by a-certain Harley and of all the Harleys I’ve met far-more than-not have been thoroughly-despicable, two-faced, almost-narcissistic people (not to tar the good ones with the same brush but the thing is I’m yet-to actually encounter a semi-decent one). I’m not alone in those sentiments of comments on the Internet are anything to go by. It’s just that for some reason Karen has more publicity.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

Harley Quinn might’ve-been okay but outside of that there’s a whole motorcycling brand steeped in white supremacy (almost K.K.K.-esque) fronted by a-certain Harley and of all the Harleys I’ve met far-more than-not have been thoroughly-despicable, two-faced, almost-narcissistic people (not to tar the good ones with the same brush but the thing is I’m yet-to actually encounter a semi-decent one). I’m not alone in those sentiments of comments on the Internet are anything to go by. It’s just that for some reason Karen has more publicity.

Fair enough.

I've definitely learned something new today, watch out for a Harley.

[Redway]

Whereas on the contrary most actual Karens are great.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Fair enough.

I've definitely learned something new today, watch out for a Harley.

I’d keep them at arm’s length at friendliest if I’m being honest.

[Niamh.]

I don't think I ever met a person called Harley but agree that any Karen I met in real life were very nice and not entitled

[Crimson Dynamo]

Karen Miller at my Primary school had lovely blue eyes and would give me her digestive biscuit from her packed lunch

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes definitely and also, people aren't allowed to disagree on one topic but still be friends (or it's a rarity at least) or get along. You're cast out of whatever group you "belonged" to if you don't follow the allowed opinions on everything. It's pretty sad to see actually. A lot of what's been named progressiveness these days is actually so regressive

Yep, couldn't agree more honestly. I used to almost go along with some others in my social circle, even though i didn't necessarily agree, if i were to say otherwise it would cause a massive row, and/or needless offence. Im not like that now however, but i can see a lot of the younger generation going along with certain narratives just because the fear of speaking out against, or offering a different opinion isn't worth the backlash.

It's actually very sad when you think about it.

A quote i'll always hold on to, and would urge anyone out there to take this on board - "it's always good to have your own opinion, it means you know your own mind"

That quote will always stick with me.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

I’d keep them at arm’s length at friendliest if I’m being honest.

I'll definitely keep that in mind.

[Swan]

Oh and to add, me and my best friend of over 25 years, HATED each other passionately in Primary school for a good year. We would fight, even our parents got involved and weren't on great terms. We disagreed on everything (obviously not politics, we were 9/10 after all), but one day, after fighting, we were left in an office together awaiting yet another bollocking and out of nowhere he quoted a wrestler, WWF was in it's late 90's boom over here. All of a sudden we chatting about it, realised we had a passion in common, same with football, and within like a week we couldn't be separated. He's still my best friend to this day.

Point being, if only we didn't feel the constant need to pick sides and not budge, im sure they'd be a lot more seemingly unlikely friendships out there.